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British firearms
      #384273 - 18/04/24 04:05 PM

My collection of user firearms is growing, from the great gunmakers.

- Jeffery - my .450 no.2 NE double rifle.
- 16-bore Jeffery side by side shotgun game gun. "New" last week.
- Westley Richards 10-bore double rifle, 1879.
- Cogswell and Harrison .500 blackmpowder express double rifle. Safe queen

Others
- Martini-Henry .577/450 Rosier, approx 1870?
- Martini-Cadet .297/250
- Martini-Cadel .222R
- SMLE .303 No.1 MkIII full wood, matching numbers, WW1 or early 1920s
- SMLE .303 No.1 MkIII cut back
- Greener Empire E17 12-bore side by side
- Parker Hale 1200 Delux M98 .30-06 custom re-stocked
- Whitworth M98 .375 H&H Magnum

- 12-bore Hollis hammer Damascus barrelled side by side

I'm still Rigby-less. Must remedy that, a .275? And lacking a Purdey. A shotgun would be nice.

What's your collection?

Colin's/Ahmed's collection would be impressive.

Edit: Redefined the list. The prestigious Brit brands are the main interest.,

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Edited by NitroX (22/04/24 09:35 PM)

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Re: British firearms [Re: NitroX]
      #384414 - 22/04/24 08:10 PM

My collection of british firearms:

* Purdey 12-65 game gun, reproofed for nitro 1913 (by Purdey) 1896
* Joseph Lang & Son 10 bore single rifle 1870-74
* Lyon & Lyon .577BPE double rifle 1900
* Joseph Lang .450/400 3 1/4NE double rifle 1906
* Midland Gun Co. .475NE double rifle ca.1914
* SMLE Mk III* .303 1918
* Webley Mk VI .455
* Webley Mk IV .380
* Mannlicher-Schoenauer 6,5x54 sporting rifle by Charles Lancaster 1906

Edited by pondoro62 (22/04/24 08:55 PM)

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Re: British firearms [Re: pondoro62]
      #384629 - 02/05/24 04:00 AM


10 bore Manton dr
.577/500 H&H dr
.500ex Cogswell & Harrison
.450 Nitro by Gibbs
.12bore ball & shot by Rigby
.360ex by Hollis & Sons(snider)
.295 H&H Rookrifle

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Re: British firearms [Re: rigbymauser]
      #384641 - 02/05/24 11:43 PM

Mine:
Purdey 12 b sidelock ss
Rigby .500 3“ BPE hammer dr
„A.Robertson & Son. Wick“ .500-450 No.1 BPE hammer dr
G.Gibbs Mannlicher M95 6.5x53R
G.Gibbs Mannlicher-Schoenauer M1900, rechambered in1982 to 6.5x55 SE
G.Gibbs Mannlicher-Schoenauer M1903, 6.5x54 M-Sch
Lee-Speed .303
Noname DWM Mauser 98 action in .375 Rimless NE aka 9.5x57 M-Sch, London proofs
W.W.Greener Martini in .310 Cadet
BSA Martini in .22 lr
W.W.Greener Martini, rebarreled to .45-70

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Re: British firearms [Re: kuduae]
      #384644 - 03/05/24 02:07 AM

Alas, none but:
2 re-barreled BSA Martini Cadets.
1916 SMLE

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Re: British firearms [Re: DarylS]
      #384650 - 03/05/24 06:41 AM

My only Brit gun is a George Gibbs 1893 Steyr in 6.5x53R. I got a 7-point buck with it last year!

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Re: British firearms [Re: fjrdoc]
      #384651 - 03/05/24 08:16 AM

British guns & rifles are kind of my "thing" so I have a few interesting ones:
Rigby Rising Bite 12 bore hammer SxS shotgun 1882
Alexander Henry & Co. SxS shotgun ~1903

GE Lewis 8 bore double rifle ~1879-80
H&H Paradox 10 bore double gun 1898
Joseph Lang & Son 12 bore double rifle 1868
WJ Jeffery .577 BPE hammer double rifle 1896
W&C Scott .500/.450 3 1/4 NE hammer double rifle 1899
Rigby 10 bore muzzle loader double rifle 1854
Rigby .577 2 3/4" BPE hammer double rifle July 1894
Rigby .470 NE hammer double rifle 1919
Rigby .450 3 1/4 NE hammer double rifle 1903
Rigby .450 3 1/4 BPE hammer double rifle 1872
Rigby .500/.450 #1 Eley BPE double rifle 1893
Rigby Mauser 98 .275 HV Aug 1936
Charles Boswell Lee Speed .375 EX (2 1/2" Flanged) 1909
Vickers Ltd. .242 Vickers Express double rifle ~1923-1927
Cogswell & Harrison Mauser 98 .242 Vickers Express on/after 1933. (4 digit Vickers Serial number)
Cogswell & Harrison "Tranter Double Patent" single shot .500/.450 #1 Express ~1870 (externally looks like a Martini)
Cogswell & Harrison CERTUS .450/.400 3 1/4" March 1903

Webley Mk IV .455 (Boer War Era)

A few other BP Express rifles, but the above are the "interesting" ones.

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Re: British firearms [Re: 3DogMike]
      #384653 - 03/05/24 11:53 AM

I’ve actually been selling off some of my guns in the last couple years.
I hate to see many of them go but I’m not married to any of them.

Single shot rifles:

Gibbs 461 No.2 Farquharson sporter
Gibbs 450 No.1 Farquharson sporter
Gibbs 303 Farquharson sporter
Gibbs 303 Farquharson sporter
Gibbs 461 No. 1 Match rifle
Alex Henry 450/400 3-1/4” takedown
Alex Henry Adams 12 bore
Alex Henry 22 Hornet
Westley Richards 450 No.2 Musket 1881 Match rifle
Westley Richards 1881 rockabilly 30-40
Westley Richards 1871 500 No.2 x 2
Westley Richards 1869 450 No.1
Westley Richards 1869 450 No.2
Westley Richards ‘97 450/400 3”
Army & Navy 500 3” Webley’02
Army & Navy 450NE Webley ‘02
Joseph Lang Webley 1897 400-360
Manton 400-350 Farquharson
W.J. Jeffery 475 No.2 Farquharson
Robert Hughes Farquharson 450 No.2 Musket
Field patent 500 No.2
F.T. Baker Swinburn 450 No.1
Webley ‘02 small action 38spl
Webley ‘02 small action 32-40
John Rigby ML Match Rifle
Rodda 8bore ML

Double Rifles:

Alex Henry 450 hammerless
Alex Henry 500 hammer
Manton 22HP

Bolt Rifles:

H&H 375
Cogswell & Harrison 10.75 x 68
Mauser 375 Express
Long Lee Enfield 303

And a gaggle of Rook rifles and a couple shotguns.
I’m sure there’s others I’ve missed!

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Re: British firearms [Re: Huvius]
      #384666 - 04/05/24 12:48 AM

Shit.

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Re: British firearms [Re: Ahmed577]
      #384669 - 04/05/24 01:58 AM

Quote:

Shit.



I know… it’s stupid…

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Re: British firearms [Re: Huvius]
      #384670 - 04/05/24 04:36 AM

That's an amazing collection, Huvius.

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Re: British firearms [Re: DarylS]
      #384674 - 04/05/24 10:48 AM

From memory, so probably missing a few.

Double rifles
* Woodward 500BPE hammer double rifle, Jones underlever
* Dickson 500BPE " " "
* Dickson 450BPE " " "
* GE Lewis 360BPE " " "
* Alexander Henry 450BPE " " "
* EM Reilly 450BPE " " "
* Watson Bros 360BPE boxlock double on a Webley screw-grip action
* Purdey self-opening sidelock double 450/400 - inbound

Single rifles
* Martini Cadet, original condition, 310 Cadet
* Greener takedown martini, higher grade, tang peep - 22 hornet
* Greener martini, prewar scope, 22LR
* Francotte martini (British adjacent?) 22 hornet
* BSA martini, higher grade target rifle - 22LR
* Tranter double-patent rifle by Cogswell & Harrison - inbound - 450EX of some stripe...TBD
* Alexander Henry falling block, takedown - 360BPE
* Westley Richards martini, takedown - 300 Sherwood
* Dickson best-grade rook, 297/250

Double guns
* Greener G-grade 10ga double
* Two FH35 Greener doubles in 12 gauge (this is a step forward, as there were 3 previously)
* C.S. Rosson boxlock, cased, in 12ga - my first English sporting gun
* William Ford high-grade chamberless 10ga waterfowler, cased. Proofed for 3.25" inch brass cases, 2.25oz shot
* William Ford 10ga boxlock, standard proofs

Other
* Sporting percussion rifle, English, ~1850
* Parker Hale Enfield rifle, 2 band, .577, Modern

And then a mix of non-sporting guns: military Webley revolvers, an SMLE, and a L1A1. There's more commonwealth stuff, but this is the English/Scottish cohort. There's also the bits for a Bren gun, but that's unlikely to be ever completed as a US-legal semiautomatic.

But hey, I can stop any time I want to. Really. This isn't an addiction.

Edited by CJF (04/05/24 11:10 PM)

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Re: British firearms [Re: CJF]
      #384675 - 04/05/24 11:42 AM

3DogMike: I think I saw your 1882 Rigby. That is a special gun. I’m not a hammer gun shotgun guy, but a rising bite hammer gun is rare.

Huvius: I’m glad you decided to part with the Holland-Woodward. Hopefully it comes back from stocking in August.

For me, my wife keeps the disease under control:

Double Rifles:
Purdey 450/400 3.25” bpe completed Aug 1895; standard Purdey self opener top lever
Fraser 303 completed in 1898; Fraser patent boxlock

Single shots:
Fraser 400/360 sidelever made around 1902
Holland Woodward 500/450 nitro built in 1906

Bolt Action
Rigby 7x57 take-down built in 1903

Double shotguns (too many)
Dickson RA 12 gauge built in 1898
Dickson RA 12 gauge built in 1901
Dickson RA 20 gauge built in 1896

H&H Royal 16 gauge built in 1911
H&H Royal 12 gauge 2” built in 1936

Westley Richards 12 gauge detachable lock built in 1928
Westley Richards 12 gauge sidelock built in 1987
Westley Richards 12 gauge 2” boxlock built in 1937

Henry Atkin 12 gauge Purdey style self opener built in 1959
Rigby 12 gauge rising bite forward lever snap action built in 1883

Ken

Edited by Kdgj (04/05/24 11:49 AM)

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Re: British firearms [Re: Kdgj]
      #384676 - 04/05/24 12:36 PM

If you had said “German” I’d have a longer list…

Shotguns

Alex Henry ribless box lock pair 12 bore (1930)
Purdey 28 bore sidelock (1920)
Purdey 12 bore sidelock (1964)
Purdey 12 bore sidelock 2” (1947)
Wilkes 28 bore box lock (2 1/2”) (1937)
Charles Ingram 12 bore sidelock
Webley & Scott 12 bore box lock (1963)
Army & Navy .410 bore box lock (1925)

Magazine rifles

.275 Rigby Mauser
.350 Rigby Mauser
.416 Rigby Mauser

(I stupidly had the 350 and 416 refinished)

Double rifle

Isaac Hollis .375 flanged

from memory, might have missed one or two)

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Re: British firearms [Re: mckinney]
      #384677 - 04/05/24 02:01 PM

I’m glad folks like you all are around and part of this community. Not many people understand why we do what we do.

Chris

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Re: British firearms [Re: CJF]
      #384678 - 04/05/24 08:01 PM

When I look at your lists I almost feel ashamed with my only two British firearms:

David Lloyd rifle caliber 7mm Rem Mag
Double rifle Webley & Scott caliber 577 Nitro Express

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Re: British firearms [Re: grandveneur]
      #384679 - 04/05/24 11:18 PM

I am wondering if less is more at times.

When the bug first hit I bought every double rifle I found that met my limits on spending and was at least at or above a certain quality and appearance. Same cycle as 35 years ago when I started collecting surplus military bolt guns - first phase was high in numbers, later phase was high in rarity or a top shooting rifle. With these sporting guns, I'm transitioning to the second phase. So the count will go down.

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Re: British firearms [Re: CJF]
      #384680 - 05/05/24 01:27 AM

Double shotguns:
12 bore H&H Royal, 1923
CS Rosson 12ga ble


Double rifles:
E Paton jones underlever, non rebounding locks .500 bpe, 1870's
Stephen Grant 500-450 #1 sidelock extractor, snap action 1894


Single shot falling block rifles:
Westley Richards 1897 model chambered in .256(6.5x53R) circa 1910
Holland Woodward 500-450
Holland Woodward .303 British 1896
H&H .30 Super built on a PD Farquharson 1926
Gibbs .303 Sporting rifle

Percussion rifles:
Wm Moore 14bore belted ball single barrel 1837-1844
Charles Lancaster single 20bore 2 groove winged bullet
WM and Chas. Smith 16 bore double rifle

And like any gunsmith, entirely too many projects to list......

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Re: British firearms [Re: bouldersmith]
      #384682 - 05/05/24 02:14 AM

Kdgj,
You likely saw it at Steve Bertram's when it came in from New Zealand……..
- Mike

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Re: British firearms [Re: 3DogMike]
      #384684 - 05/05/24 09:35 AM

Mike,

Yes and you picked up some nice guns. That Rigby is special.

Ken

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Re: British firearms [Re: Kdgj]
      #384717 - 07/05/24 02:33 PM

My British firearms are:

DOUBLE RIFLES
- 500NE snap action under lever with rising bite by John Shirley of Birmingham. Made for me and delivered in 2017 . Original case.
- 450/400 NE 3” side lock by Westley Richards for the Maharana of Udaipur. Delivered in 1920. Original case.
- 375 H&H flanged magnum. H&H Royal action. Ordered by “ Leviticus” and sold through Manton & Co Calcutta in 1929. Original case.
- 303 Purdey non ejector with Jones underlever. Made for Viscount Chaplin in 1897/98. A scope fitted in mid 1920s by the maker. Original case.
- 500NE John Rigby Shikari being made for me . ETA early 2026.

BOLT RIFLES
- 450 Rigby - John Rigby PH single square bridge sold new to me in 2018.
- 425 WR - WR takedown “best” rifle with extended magazine and 26 inch barrel. Made in 1913 .
- 425WR - WR 3 shot magazine “best” rifle made on an FN action with QD scope and 25 inch barrel. Made for Gastinne Renette in 1958. I bought it in 2012 in virtually unused condition.
- 416 Rigby - John Rigby Big Game single square bridge with peep sight on cocking piece. Made for me in 2022. Rigby case.
- 318 WR- WR takedown rifle made in 1908 with 26 inch barrel. Non original case.
- 300 H&H - Ronald Wharton of London . Has H&H style scope mounts and 26 inch barrel . Made in 1989.
- 303 Lee Speed - BSA & M Co Pattern No1, 10 shot magazine . Made circa 1897.
- 303 Lee Speed - Army & Navy CSL Pattern No1 , 5 shot magazine and shotgun style safety. Made circa 1904.

SHOTGUNS
- 12 gauge - True pair of Stephen Grant & Sons side lock top lever game guns 2.5 inch chambers. Nos 1 & 2 of what was a 3 gun set made for HB Leigh in 1901. Non original case.
- 12 gauge - I. Hollis hammer gun , Damascus barrels with 2.75 inch chambers. Made in early 20th Century. Original case. A family heirloom in poor condition after sitting untouched in a ceiling in Brisbane for 80 years . Cleaned it up, checked it out and started shooting it .

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Re: British firearms [Re: PCC600]
      #384722 - 08/05/24 01:48 AM

Also forgot my SxS damascus 2 1/2" chambered Field hammer gun
marked LONDON on the rib. It is the gun I now use at rendezvous for trap shooting. 1 1/4oz. #7-1/2 and 75gr. 1F.

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Re: British firearms [Re: DarylS]
      #386021 - 26/07/24 08:01 AM

What a fun thread! Great collections, guys.

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Re: British firearms [Re: Vette447]
      #386023 - 26/07/24 01:13 PM

I just added another:
Holland and Holland 10 Bore Double Rifle 3 1/4" case 26" barrels Holland's books show it was completed and sold 25August1882
Jones underlever, hammers, Damascus barrels 9 groove rifling & ~85" twist weight 14lbs 8oz 8 Dram round ball rifle

Will have a couple of pictures up in a few days.
Have brass and a proper ball mould so can get it shooting soon.
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Re: British firearms [Re: 3DogMike]
      #386079 - 29/07/24 10:40 AM

Congrats Mike. Can’t wait to see pics and hear the range report

Chris

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