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Surabaya bull (banteng) charge historical
      #377892 - 11/07/23 03:02 AM



Northern Territory Times and Gazette
Fri 10 Nov 1899

Bufalo Shooter injured.

On Sunday night, about 11.30, a
black fellow arrived in town from
Cahill and Johnstone's buffalo shooting
camp, on the Adelaide River, bringing
the very bad news that W. Johnstone
had been horned by a wild bull, and
was lying in the camp unconscious
when the boy left.

Luckily the blackfellow (' Quiz ') brought in three horses with him riding one and driving the others, and as soon as they had had a sufficient rest and been fed Mr. Cahill started out for the scene, riding St.
Lawrence.

He left Palmerston about
five o'clock on Monday morning, and
covered the distance, something like
fifty miles over some very rough
country, in about six hours, arriving at
the camp at 11 o'clock with his horse
completely done.

The account given by Johnstone of
the accident is as follows: It appears
that he was out shooting Surabaya
cattle on foot, the grass was too high
to allow for a horse being used, and shot
two. He went towards them and
noticing that one was not dead he gave
it another bullet.

The animal, which was a bull, sprang to it's feet and turned round. Johnstone hastily slipped another cartridge into the breech, and as the animal charged met it with
bullet No. 3. The ball struck the bull
full in the mouth, passing up through
his head and out at the back of his
neck, but did not have the effect of
stopping it.

The hunter was now the
hunted. As the bull looked full of
'devil' Johnstone hastily came to the
conclusion that he would watch developments from a distance, and ran for a clump of corkscrew palms with the bull
close behind him.

He reached them in safety and commenced to dodge round them, but his foot caught in the long grass and he tripped and fell.
In an instant the bull was on him,
caught him on his horns, and tossed
him high in the air.

Fortunately the high grass prevented the bull seeing his victim, and after standing for some moments looking in the direction in which he had thrown Johnstone he dropped on his knees and died.

Johnstone soon found that he was very
badly injured; he had a hole in his
side just under the left breast, where
the bull's horn had entered and from
which the blood was pouring, and his
ribs were smashed in. He could just
speak when the blacks found him, and
sent one into Palmerston for assistance.

Before it arrived, however, he managed
to stop the flow of blood by binding
himself up with narghas and strapping
them tight with saddle straps. When
Cahill arrived he had the injured man
placed on a stretcher and carried down
the river several miles to where the
dinghy was moored in which it was intended to take him down to the mouth
to meet the Victoria, which left Palmerston
Monday afternoon.

Towards midnight a party from the launch put in an appearance, and the two parties
proceeded down the river, a distance of
seven miles, boarding the Victoria
about 3.30. Johnstone was immediately
placed under the care of Miss
Nelson, who was on board, and under
her able hands had made a great improvement by the time he reached Port
Darwin. He was taken direct to the
hospital.

We are pleased to be able to state
that Dr, Goldsmith reports that John
stone is now out of danger.

Article from;
Trove, National Library of Australia.
Image from Bing image creator.

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Re: Surabaya bull (banteng) charge historical [Re: NitroX]
      #377893 - 11/07/23 03:07 AM

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its not a resemblance, I live in Indonesia for 15 years. Surabaya is Java Island, ancestral homeland of wild banteng. The local cattle in Java and Bali also known as Sapi Bali or Balinese Cattle are a 100% form of domesticated Banteng. Just like Mithun in India is a domesticated form of Gaur.




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Re: Surabaya bull (banteng) charge historical [Re: NitroX]
      #377894 - 11/07/23 03:20 AM

John,

Thanks for posting another interesting article. I think that Johnstone was very lucky that he didn't get an infection from the bull's horn.

BTW, what are Surabaya cattle? I could not find what those are.

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      #377902 - 11/07/23 06:40 AM

One hell of a tough character to survive that!

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Re: Surabaya bull (banteng) charge historical [Re: 93x64mm]
      #377913 - 11/07/23 10:38 PM

Very lucky indeed!! Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Surabaya bull (banteng) charge historical [Re: degoins]
      #377922 - 12/07/23 08:16 AM

One tuff and lucky bloke there.

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Re: Surabaya bull (banteng) charge historical [Re: Rule303]
      #381203 - 13/12/23 10:00 PM

Quote:

BTW, what are Surabaya cattle?



Late post, apologies, but here's a photo of a banteng bull possibly from the same area.
This one is no world-beater but the best I could find on the allotted day.
Very sharp horns!!



I had recently been discussing these critters with a safari guide who has survived a few serious charges from banteng just this year:
from his experiences it seems they can be more dangerous than buffalo. ...so I was in a "cautious" frame of mind when sneaking in on this fellow to around 15 metres!
Sat watching him for at least 10 minutes before deciding to take the shot, and had to keep shifting my butt to maintain the bead on his chest
through a narrow gap in the Barringtonia. Lucky the wind held!
He was quartering towards me so the "mad dash" immediately on receiving the heart-shot was straight in my direction!
The second barrel was delivered in a big hurry at perhaps 7 or 8 metres as he rushed past!
It was a little high for the shoulder but caught the spine where it dips down between the shoulder-blades and he virtually somersaulted,
as only a banteng bull at full gallop can!
Spectacular stuff!


John: from your initial post:
Quote:

Image coming



I would be very interested in seeing this if you still have it!

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Re: Surabaya bull (banteng) charge historical [Re: Marrakai]
      #381204 - 13/12/23 10:49 PM

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stop the flow of blood by binding himself up with narghas and strapping them tight with saddle straps



Anyone know what narghas are?
Nargha sounds like an Urdu word, maybe a plant (nargis is daffodil), but haven't a clue.

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Re: Surabaya bull (banteng) charge historical [Re: Marrakai]
      #381205 - 14/12/23 12:07 AM

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He was quartering towards me so the "mad dash" immediately on receiving the heart-shot was straight in my direction!
The second barrel was delivered in a big hurry at perhaps 7 or 8 metres as he rushed past!
It was a little high for the shoulder but caught the spine where it dips down between the shoulder-blades and he virtually somersaulted,
as only a banteng bull at full gallop can!
Spectacular stuff!


John: from your initial post:
Quote:

Image coming



I would be very interested in seeing this if you still have it!




Not bragging, but even more specular to see an elephant almost somersault.

The missing file, one of my dementia moments again.

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Re: Surabaya bull (banteng) charge historical [Re: Marrakai]
      #381207 - 14/12/23 12:57 AM

Quote:

Quote:

stop the flow of blood by binding himself up with narghas and strapping them tight with saddle straps



Anyone know what narghas are?
Nargha sounds like an Urdu word, maybe a plant (nargis is daffodil), but haven't a clue.




I googled. Came up empty tho one meaning was "encirclement" so I wondered if it was a idiom for tourniquet, tho in the sentence it seems more like something UNDER a tourniquet.

IOW, I have no idea.

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      #381208 - 14/12/23 01:05 AM

I'm guessing leafy reeds or similar.

But if field botany expert Marrakai doesn't know, no one does!

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Re: Surabaya bull (banteng) charge historical [Re: Marrakai]
      #381210 - 14/12/23 02:10 AM

I've messed around quite a bit with domestic stock and that thing there looks "quick".

It's true, amazing how quick a big old range cow can be when she wants to be (like when you get between her and her calf) but that rascal there looks like a sprinter and with those points sticking out on both sides one might prefer a head-on to a side swipe!

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      #381251 - 15/12/23 01:16 PM

Very nasty!

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      #381264 - 16/12/23 05:18 AM

Hell of a picture, John. VERY nasty. Interesting aspect of animals with horns, they know EXACTLY where the tips are & how to use them, even "domestic" bulls.

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      #381265 - 16/12/23 05:21 AM

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they know EXACTLY where the tips are & how to use them, even "domestic" bulls.




Yeah, they do.



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      #381837 - 09/01/24 12:20 PM

Just got back from a trip to Indonesia: on Nusa Lembongan in particular I was kept laughing by the tethered banteng in every second back yard,
being looked after by a four-year-old kid with a stick!

The locals are mostly hindu so needless to say, the topic of banteng hunting was NOT discussed!!

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      #381839 - 09/01/24 03:09 PM

Quote:

Just got back from a trip to Indonesia: on Nusa Lembongan in particular I was kept laughing by the tethered banteng in every second back yard,
being looked after by a four-year-old kid with a stick!

The locals are mostly hindu so needless to say, the topic of banteng hunting was NOT discussed!!




You now have to do a travel trip report, lots of photo sharing please.

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      #382607 - 16/02/24 04:38 PM

Definitely more aggressive then our buffalo have at least one if not more charge us a season generally !! By far the best hunt Australia has to offer in my opinion.

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