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Another canned lion charge video
      #376035 - 16/04/23 09:44 AM

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NitroExpressGroup/permalink/1332773550787430/?mibextid=Nif5oz

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Re: Another canned lion charge video [Re: NitroX]
      #376050 - 17/04/23 02:08 AM

Can't argue with the comments, except for the air rifle comment, of course. That wouldn't work.

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Re: Another canned lion charge video [Re: DarylS]
      #376052 - 17/04/23 03:39 AM

The thread opener:

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Barry Vermeulen.
Stopping power of 500 NE. #nitrosafaris #doublerifles #kalahari #southafrica




I think Barry is the guy shooting the double rifle.

Andrew Baldry, an experienced outfitter and PH from Zambia, and Buzz Charlton from Zimbabwe, sum it up well.


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Andrew Baldry
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You get two shots from a double and have to kneel down to be on the same level as the Lion.
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Benjamin Jordan As a PH in Zambia you have to get it right and this is a perfect example of incompetence.
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Jack Hahn Andrew Baldry I'm glad you commented. I can't see much good on this video.





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Buzz Charlton
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Wrong on so many levels
1/ canned lion
2/ bow hunting a lion
Etc
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Mihai Ionut-Daniel for me simply put if you cannot stop a charge with the weapon you are hunting an animal with then it’s the wrong weapon to start with and this video proves it .
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I hunted several ele with clients with bow and ended up shooting them all in defense . It is not fair on the animal and in hindsight I wish I had never done it . We learn from our mistakes -dangerous game should not be hunted with bow.
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Jack Hahn
Buzz Charlton yes Buzz I've seen a private video of one of these ele attacks you mention. On a friend's phone, don't worry not broadcast on the net. Shocking to see the guy being pushed along under the elephant bull's forehead during the charge. Yes your shots killed it.
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Thank you for your experienced comments.





My other comments not as a reply.




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Not at all an impressive video. Terrible in fact.
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First cross bow hunting a lion and a terrible shot at that.
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First shot a complete miss. It happens. Second shot, first by the double rifle? A miss as well.
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I see no one has mentioned when the guys moved to the right, the lion kept running in a straight line. Appears he would have ran past? Third shot into the flank of the lion. Almost to the side.
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Is it another canned lion? Where the lion lacks true wild instincts? A lion charge where the lion is going to run past? Yes canned IMO.
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Not an impressive video by any criteria. Being used as a marketing gimmick.
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Just watched the video to the end. What a total wank. Ending with an edited version, slow motion. Showing only the shot that hit. And not the wounded lion flailing around. And to cap it off, the crossbow and bolt leaning on the lion, so the client can claim he shot the lion with it?!
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How many people were in on this lion hunt? The cast of thousands always seem to be on canned hunts? 2x cameramen. At least 2x rifle shooters. Plus the crossbow client.
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Plus the additional footage of the lion chewing on a stick, looks like a very much canned lion.




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Re: Another canned lion charge video [Re: NitroX]
      #376053 - 17/04/23 03:48 AM

I think Barry Vermeulen loaded that videondirectly to the NE group on FB.

Lots of viewers think the video is fine. Not recognising another South African canned semi tame non wild experienced lion.

Many fine the video distasteful.

I probably shouldn't voice my own opinions. Upsetting content providers posting viral stuff. Which is often questionable. That FB group has been getting dozens new members or first commenters because of that video. I need to get every new member but ahole FB doesn't require people to become members anymore. I get to get their first comment. And am harsh to screen out spammers and antis. Antis nowadays don't debate stuff, they just try to cause trouble and report anything to Farcebook.

The NE group on FB is public. Most hunting groups are private.

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Re: Another canned lion charge video [Re: NitroX]
      #376055 - 17/04/23 04:01 AM

Quote:

Buzz Charlton
.
Wrong on so many levels
1/ canned lion
2/ bow hunting a lion
Etc
.
&
.
Mihai Ionut-Daniel for me simply put if you cannot stop a charge with the weapon you are hunting an animal with then it’s the wrong weapon to start with and this video proves it .
.
I hunted several ele with clients with bow and ended up shooting them all in defense . It is not fair on the animal and in hindsight I wish I had never done it . We learn from our mistakes -dangerous game should not be hunted with bow.
.
Jack Hahn
Buzz Charlton yes Buzz I've seen a private video of one of these ele attacks you mention. On a friend's phone, don't worry not broadcast on the net. Shocking to see the guy being pushed along under the elephant bull's forehead during the charge. Yes your shots killed it.
.
Thank you for your experienced comments.




That is one of our members and a personal friend. "larcher" /JB. The hunter pushed along under the forehead of the running bull elephant is JB's cousin Luc. Luc survived with some bad bone breaks. Collar bone? But he got back to hunting a week later. Upset his broken bone every time he fired the .458 Lott. Tough guy indeed.

Luc was filming while JB hunted with a bow. A bull came out of the bush in a close sudden charge. JB and Buzz got out of the way, split second, Luc did not and got mincemeated under the bull's forehead pushed along. Buzz shot the bull dead.

The video is not public and would outdo any of the charge videos I've ever seen. The video was filmed by Buzz's cameraman and is his property. If Luc's video existed it would be extremely dramatic.

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Re: Another canned lion charge video [Re: NitroX]
      #376075 - 17/04/23 02:14 PM

can't see the canned lion hunt video but after reading think its better not to watch it

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Re: Another canned lion charge video [Re: lancaster]
      #376080 - 17/04/23 04:38 PM

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can't see the canned lion hunt video but after reading think its better not to watch it




Yeah its gone. But I copied it.

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