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casper50
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New marking to me on MS in 7x57
#375978 - 12/04/23 02:20 AM

I've never seen one with Hochrasanz on it before. If google translation is correct it translates to "high rated".

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: casper50]
#375980 - 12/04/23 03:08 AM

Hochrasanz = high velocity/speed. Sighted for an about 140 gr pointed bullet instead of the then usual 173 gr rn.
Comparable to Rigby's ".275 High Velocity" inscription.

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: kuduae]
#375981 - 12/04/23 04:04 AM

Please show us the sights

Please show the rest of the rifle

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: tinker]
#375984 - 12/04/23 06:02 AM

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: casper50]
#375985 - 12/04/23 06:34 AM

Now THAT is a nice hunting/stalking rifle.
tks.

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: DarylS]
#375987 - 12/04/23 09:32 AM

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Now THAT is a nice hunting/stalking rifle.

Indeed it is. Just about perfect!

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: Huvius]
#375991 - 12/04/23 01:02 PM

Looks great

Run it!

I'll be looking forward to a field report

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: casper50]
#375993 - 12/04/23 09:00 PM

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I've never seen one with Hochrasanz on it before. If google translation is correct it translates to "high rated".

Verry innnteresting....

Nice peep sight. Lyman 36?

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: Rothhammer1]
#375994 - 12/04/23 11:50 PM

yes

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: casper50]
#375997 - 13/04/23 08:36 AM

Congratulations, that's one fine looking rifle and in my favorite chambering!

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: JDL]
#375998 - 13/04/23 09:25 AM

Really nice. Please forgive my ignorance, but what model MS is that?

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: thirdbite]
#376000 - 13/04/23 10:45 AM

I believe that's it's a model 1925

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: casper50]
#376003 - 13/04/23 02:38 PM

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I believe that's it's a model 1925

So called, anyhow.

At the time, Stoeger marketed the post - M1910 as 'High Velocity'. Modern collectors refer to them as "M1925". Early .30-'06 examples (Sequoia) were stamped 'M1924'.

Unlike the M1900 through M1924 and M1950 onward, the post - M1924 rifles and stutzen manufactured prior to Model M1950 had no model designation stamped on receiver ring or elsewhere.

Your rifle may actually explain why Stoeger listed the 7X57 twice under "for the U.S. 1906 Cartridge, also..." in their 1939 catalog.

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: Rothhammer1]
#376054 - 17/04/23 03:52 AM

Nice rifle. Did anybody notice the barrelband sling attachement? Never seen it on a MS before? The Mauser sporters type A and B have them, but the MS have the one on the wood with the screw that go right through. This looks like a custom order? Maybe Kuduae can shed some light?

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: casper50]
#376058 - 17/04/23 04:16 AM

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Isn't that just lovely. And such a useful chamberings.

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Re: New marking to me on MS in 7x57 [Re: NitroX]
#376064 - 17/04/23 06:18 AM

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Nice rifle. Did anybody notice the barrelband sling attachement? Never seen it on a MS before? The Mauser sporters type A and B have them, but the MS have the one on the wood with the screw that go right through. This looks like a custom order? Maybe Kuduae can shed some light?

As you ask: Every prewar Mannlicher – Schoenauer sporting rifle or Stutzen has such a barrel band with sort of a sling swivel base, see the catalog pics above. The screw of the stirrup swivel fastens the thin, hollowed out and fragile foreend to the barrel. If the foreend was not fastened to the barrel this way, a forced pull at the sling would break the wood. Most often these barrel bands are not fastened to allow for lengthwise expansion of barrel or wood. But it is easy to fasten it by a bit of soft solder or even epoxy and mount it with a conventional swivel.
Imho on this M1925 rifle the factory stock had the foreend shortened and fitted with a horn or ivory tip to alter it to British and American tastes. The now short stock necessitated mounting a sling swivel on the barrel. I have once seen an opposite modification in an Austrian gunshop: Here a Mauser Magnum actioned .350 Rigby rifle had it’s iconic short Rigby foreend lengthened to M-S rifle shape by installing a very long contrasting foreend tip

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