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IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others?
      #373599 - 29/01/23 09:41 AM

I need some gear for my STI Trojan in .38 Super.

I need a quickish draw holster and magazine holders, five I presume?

Any suggestions? Why? Where? How much? Do you sell stuff?

Anything else.


I haven't been to the IPSC comps at my new club yet. Been busy with other stuff, other more informal shoots. I need to get my minimum shoots in quickly. Date getting close.

Joined the AURRPC, Adelaide University Regiment Rifle and Pistol Club. Multi discipline setup.


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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: NitroX]
      #373634 - 30/01/23 06:59 PM

G'Day Fella's,

NitroX, my best advice, would be to attend an IPSC shoot, and have a look at what is being used, and ask these folks for advice.
The reason I suggest this is, I imagine you will see a wide variety of types and styles, of both Holsters, and Magazine Pouches, that are considered acceptable, for use in IPSC.

Also, are you Right or Left Hand dominant?

I'm not 100% sure but the STI, Trojan, "may be" slightly different, from your average 1911 ........?
So confirm this, one way or the other, before you start spending $ on any holster.

I suggest you have at least 6 magazines (and a couple more would be handy), and Wilson Combat make The Best magazines, for Single Stack 1911's!

FYI- As a starter, www.unclemikes.com make good serviceable Kydex Holsters, and mag pouches, to suit normal 1911's, (and other pistols).
You should be able to order these, thru your LGS.
Other brand options, include Hellweg, Blade Tech, Safariland, Galco, etc, etc.

Can I also suggest/ask, in Oz, the .38 Super, is almost exclusively a Handloding Only option!
So I hope you already have some "Crackers" for it?

Hope that helps.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: Homer]
      #373639 - 30/01/23 07:56 PM

Thanks.

So far no problem buying ammo. In fact a good guy from my new club reloads and sells .38 Super ammo at slightly reduced loads at about half or two-thirds factory ammo price. Useful!

Yes I will attend some ipsc comps and have a look.

Roscoe kindly sent to me a US Army holster which my pistol does fit into. Not suitable for ipsc comps though. But a cool holster. Thanks be to Curl.

PS as you know handgun powder is extremely rare to purchase. I do have loaded ammo, brass, primers and projectiles ready. Still need a handgun press and dies. Will get around to them by the time powder becomes purchasable.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: NitroX]
      #373640 - 30/01/23 08:02 PM

My club is an official military club. The guy doing the reloads is ex services. I believe a lot of handgun powder is going to military purchases. So maybe he has a source?

So if he can sell reloads I am pretty set if that continues.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: NitroX]
      #373651 - 31/01/23 07:39 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Good to hear NitroX.

FYI regarding reloading gear, get yourself a Dillon reloading press (maybe a 550C), along with multiple, replacement tool heads/die combo's.
Contact Mario Mori, at https://saffiretrading.com/ , as he is a small business, with Great service, etc.

Good luck with locating locally made pistol powder!
Though and FYI, I have seen that sombody, is importing some Czech made powder.

FYI. I load most of my handgun ammo on my Dillon 550, along with a coupla rifle cartridges (.223 & .308).
Despite being loaded on a progressive reloading press, both of these rifles, shoot sub 1/2" groups!

Hope that helps.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: Homer]
      #373652 - 31/01/23 08:02 AM

My bro has the 650 Dillon. That is a nice machine with case and bullet feed(I think). He uses it for his .45 Colt, .44/40 and .45 ACP ammo for Cowboy Action.
The .45 ACP is used in the "Wildbunch" group.

I haven't shot IPSc for 38 years so am out of "touch" with things associated with that sport.
The sport turned into a Race Gun game here so I lost interest.
I started off in IPSC with my 4" Model 29 back in 1975, switching to a 1911 in the early 80's, then selling that pistol and quitting the game.
I used a small & slim, hard leather cross draw holster back then, that went with the pistol. Not sure they are even allowed nowadays.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: DarylS]
      #373701 - 01/02/23 09:47 AM

Quote:


I haven't shot IPSc for 38 years so am out of "touch" with things associated with that sport.
The sport turned into a Race Gun game here so I lost interest.
I started off in IPSC with my 4" Model 29 back in 1975, switching to a 1911 in the early 80's, then selling that pistol and quitting the game.
I used a small & slim, hard leather cross draw holster back then, that went with the pistol. Not sure they are even allowed nowadays.



I'll have a look and if not interested do my own thing. In any case I compete against myself. Not too worried about competitions. Not yet anyway. Become proficient with using a handgun in different scenarios.

Holsters? I was told lots of guys use some sort of rig with no holster "bucket" at all? Extremely quick to draw. I prefer to learn with something closer to "real life". Given of course we are only allowed to use handguns at ranges.

I also prefer plainer handguns. Don't need a "race" gun.

At some point I want to add a .45 ACP. While difficult to get a permit for, I believe certain disciplines with steel tip over targets does get permitted.

A .22Rf at some time as well. Fun and easy target shooting. The AURRPC club has loaner .22 RF handguns as well. Have to try them out.n

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: NitroX]
      #373703 - 01/02/23 09:56 AM

In .22's, it is hard to beat an old S&W Model 17 in .22. Incredibly accurate, but only a 6 shooter.
Of course, one of the less expensive Ruger SA'a will fill the bill as well.
Loved my .45ACP - 7.7gr. BlueDot and 300gr. FN's, was dynamite on the 10 yard steel 'rack'. After porting the pistol,
I could "run it" in 2 seconds - be on the third one when the first one hit the stop. Those days were fun indeed - and only 40 years ago.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: DarylS]
      #373737 - 02/02/23 07:15 AM

G'Day Fella's,

I'm the same as you DarylS, as whilst I still shoot "Stock", IPSC, the Race Guns (and the $), plus idea behind the original concept of IPSC, have changed the sport for ever.
Sad really!
As an example, I was laughed down recently, when I suggested that we shoot a few "Standard Exersizes", to help teach the new shooters, the basicis .................

Double D'oh!!
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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: Homer]
      #373738 - 02/02/23 08:53 AM

IDPA seems to be the way to go nowadays.They do shoot IDPA locally, just haven't gone out to watch yet. Wheel guns are supposed to be compeititive. Not sure of that, after watching the video.

https://www.idpa.com/?sfw=pass1675289198

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: DarylS]
      #373756 - 02/02/23 04:15 PM

Handgun competitions are pretty new for me.

My new club does a few different disciplines.

https://www.aurrpc.com.au/disciplines/

IPSC handgun
IPSC shotgun
Service Pistol
Centrefire pistol
Air pistol
Black powder
Handgun metal silhouette
Steel Action
Single Six
Shotgun clays
Rifle

Had a look at the Steel Action comp today. I can do that.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: NitroX]
      #373772 - 02/02/23 06:13 PM

Looks like fun John - wish we knew what the hell was happening with our Shotgun & Pistol powders!

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: 93x64mm]
      #373782 - 03/02/23 05:44 AM

This looked like fun, however just a plain riot gun, NO - race guns & special shell holders are also necessary for THIS game.


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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: DarylS]
      #373928 - 07/02/23 01:30 PM

On Saturday I had a go at the handgun metal silhouette competition.

5 targets each at 25 metres, 50 m, 75 m and 100 metres.

I expected to hit none! . Especially as the locking elevation screw of my rear sight lost itself a week ago.

However after three shots at 25 m I worked out the elevation needed and hit the last two targets. Missed all the rest but believe the impacts were not wild or were reasonably close sometimes. Hard at 75 m and 100 m when the elevation required means the muzzle or front sight of the handgun completely obscures the target.

Reportedly some guys use a different load for each range. Perfected to work spot on each range.

Best result I think was 11/20.

My first ever result was actually quite average. Most shooting in the range of 0 to 3 or 4.

Glad I gave it a go. Will shoot it again. I will need to have a think about how to score better. First up fix that flipping rear sight! And more practice.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: NitroX]
      #373931 - 07/02/23 01:37 PM

Interesting handgun silhouette is fun. This must be a different match, though as the rams are at 200 yards in the handgun silhouette I am familiar with.
Just googled it and see there are now a lot of different disciplines in handgun silhouette.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: DarylS]
      #373935 - 07/02/23 02:23 PM

Yes the normal silhouette comps I think are different? Here people shot both .22 RF and/or CF. Some of the RFs were proper target pistols. I don't think anynif the CFs were specialist for targets.

One good thing is through this comp I can justify a greater the .38/9mm and get a .45 ACP and similar.

Four of my six required attendances done. Two more this week I hope and I am legal for the last twelve months.

I'd like to go regularly, but an hour and a quarter drive each way, though through the very pleasant and lovely Barossa, Barossa Ranges and Adelaide Hills. Vineyards, reservoirs/lakes, pine forests, hills, hills meadows, gum trees galore, orchards, etc. A drive worth it by itself. I have driven variations of it probably over 2000 times ... Still waiting to see fallow deer again though! . Only once, maybe twice. I know their country.

As said I'd like to go regularly but need the motivation to get me moving. Non handgun I don't need a range and can do it at home anytime. Different for guys in the city.

I do want to have a go at the five target steel action competitions. Looked fun and fast.

The IPSC range at the AURRPC looks very small and unexciting. I'll visit the local Kapunda IPSC club and see again what they're doing. I need to do the compulsory holster training before I can shoot IPSC.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: NitroX]
      #374066 - 13/02/23 12:23 AM

Shot on the Steel Action competition on Saturday. 2 X 5 tip over steel targets. All one distance. Quite close. Some fun.

Finally I've got my six attendances for the year.

Managed to try:
Steel Action;
Metal Silhouette;
Service Pistol.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: NitroX]
      #374082 - 13/02/23 07:24 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Good to hear NitroX, that you are enjoying yourself, whilst ataining these shooting skills.

The advice that I give to any new shooter is;
"Take it slow, and focus on Accuracy and ataining the highest score possible first, the Speed will come naturally with time."

If you are able to at home, do some holster drawing, and magazine changing practice (NO ammo present!!!).
Place a used IPSC target, on the wall/back of a door, etc in the practice area.
Get a piece of carpet or a rubber mat (1 x 1.5 meters..... ish, in size), then stand off the rear edge of the carpet/mat (between you and the target), as this gives the expensive magazines, something soft to land on, during the mag change practice.

Hope that helps

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: Homer]
      #374085 - 13/02/23 09:46 AM

Absolutely, magazine-change practice is VERY important.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: DarylS]
      #374087 - 13/02/23 10:32 AM

With Miss Smith and Mr Wesson there are no soft landings required, no stove pipes no malfunctions just shot after shot.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: Bindi2]
      #374088 - 13/02/23 01:57 PM

Quote:

With Miss Smith and Mr Wesson there are no soft landings required, no stove pipes no malfunctions just shot after shot.



Yes indeed Bindi2!
For the price, S&W are The Best revolvers, on the planet.

D'oh!
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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: Homer]
      #374089 - 13/02/23 02:12 PM

I dearly love my M29.

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Re: IPSC rigs and gear - Homer? Others? [Re: DarylS]
      #374442 - 25/02/23 06:51 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Quote:

I dearly love my M29.


Yes DarylS, the M29, is Never a bad choice!

D'oh!
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