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kuduae
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An unexpected spare part find
      #352673 - 25/04/21 10:13 PM

14 years ago I was given the barreled action only of a British sporterised, Birmingham proofed Mannlicher – Schoenauer model 1900. There is no maker’s or retailer’s address on the barrel, but there are three serial numbers: The receiver is dated “Steyr 1901” and the Steyr factory number is 98. Then there is the George Gibbs, Bristol, serial number B3452. So it was sporterised by Gibbs and retailed by someone who engraved A808 on the triggerguard, Purdey?
The photo shows it beneath my 1905 dated G.Gibbs Mannlicher – Schoenauer M 1903 # B4843 and above my 1899 G.Gibbs Mannlicher number B3085.

As there was no hope for ever finding a proper Gibbs style stock, I made one myself, trying to ape the British style. As I am no gunsmith, let alone stockmaker, but merely a gun tinkerer and hobbyist, the results were never satisfactory to my eyes.

For years I contemplated about altering the shape, but never did so.
Then, a few weeks ago, a stray M-Sch stock was offered on egun, described as a stock for a Mannlicher – Schoenauer GK. (Well, many Germans are apt to call any true Mannlicher – Schoenauer a “GK”, as 1960s rifles in 7x64 marked GK are the most often encountered here)

To me, the photo looked like if “Gibbs” was written all over. So I bought it at Euro 160.- gross. When it arrived, it turned out to be for a M-S M1903 and of the same dimensions, shape and checkering pattern as the one of my G.Gibbs M95 rifle. On cleaning, I found the remains of a number B6017(?) inside the barrel channel. So it is an original G.Gibbs stock indeed. Some work on the inletting of barrel channel and triggerguard fitted it to my M1900 action perfectly. Here it is, shown below my M95 Gibbs Mannlicher. (It’s just perspective and my photographing inability. Both rifles are of the same size with 26” barrels)

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LRF
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Re: An unexpected spare part find [Re: kuduae]
      #352674 - 25/04/21 10:52 PM

Very nice find, work, and completed rifle!

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lancaster
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Re: An unexpected spare part find [Re: LRF]
      #352675 - 25/04/21 10:56 PM

Fuchs kann immer kommen!

the internet is sometimes a strange thing, I have stoped to say never if someone ask me about a hard to find part.

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Parabola
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Re: An unexpected spare part find [Re: lancaster]
      #352692 - 26/04/21 03:08 AM

Dear Kuduae,

As I am sure you are already aware, Purdey did use an A prefix when numbering rifles retailed by them but not of their make.

At one time I owned a .22 Savage High Power 1899 take down which they had sold to Lord Tredegar. It had their number (think it was A1281?) engraved on the guard bow.

In Christopher Austyn “ Classic Sporting Rifles” at page 77 he shows a Purdey cased and retailed 8x56 Model 1908 MS, Steyr number 3005, Purdey number A1228 retailed by Purdey in 1912.

I have much appreciated the information you have posted on loading for the 9.5mm. My 1910 Stutzen is proofed as .375” and was retailed by Watson Brothers in 1914.

Good Hunting!

Parabola

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Rothhammer1
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Re: An unexpected spare part find [Re: Parabola]
      #352721 - 26/04/21 09:28 AM



Fortune smiled upon your M1900.

A Gibbs stock reunited with a Gibbs MS. True romance.

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3DogMike
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Re: An unexpected spare part find [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #352756 - 27/04/21 01:03 PM

Now THAT is a winning lottery ticket.
Very nice.
- Mike

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JDL
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Re: An unexpected spare part find [Re: 3DogMike]
      #353059 - 04/05/21 07:02 AM

What a lucky find. Congratulations!

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DarylS
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Re: An unexpected spare part find [Re: JDL]
      #353062 - 04/05/21 08:29 AM

Very nice indeed - nicely finished/re-finished as well.

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NitroXAdministrator
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Re: An unexpected spare part find [Re: DarylS]
      #386426 - 20/08/24 09:42 PM

Amazing find and well matched. Both rifles look spot on and appropriate.

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John aka NitroX

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