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k80
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leadsled
      #34696 - 15/07/05 10:17 AM

Has anyone used the "leadsled" for
recoil reduction during sight in?
It appears it would be ideal for
doubles because of the points of
contact.

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JPK
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Re: leadsled [Re: k80]
      #34713 - 16/07/05 08:36 AM

In lieu of the lead sled or other device on the market, I have used, off a bench, a pair of blue jeans with two bags of shot down each leg and the butt nestled into the crotch of the jeans, of course with the legs stretched out on the bench.

Hold the rifle, bolt or double with the forward hand as you normally would but don't put your should to the butt merely "sneak" your finger into the trigger gaurd on to the trigger. I'll feel odd, especially holding the forearm of a double and for either bolt or double you will need to hold it down through recoil. You'll be suprised by the lack of recoil and by the need to hold the barrel(s) down.

It won't due for final sight in but will provide the best grouping your likely to get and a few final shots without the jeans will show any variation from your normal hold.

I tried this with a couple of rifles and shot my best groups (for checking regulation) this way. I also tried it with a 375H&H with a bunch of factory ammo to see what shot best. Didn't get beat up and found the ammo the 375 loves. needed to move poi about half inch down and right when I shot without the jeans.

JPK

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mickey
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Re: leadsled [Re: JPK]
      #34720 - 16/07/05 11:51 AM

A leadsled or any other device that does not allow the rifle to recoil rearward is an invitation for a cracked stock. Why not put the butt against a concrete wall to stop it from recoiling?

The jeans idea will allow the rifle rearward travel.

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new_guy
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Re: leadsled [Re: mickey]
      #34735 - 17/07/05 12:50 AM

In reply to:

A leadsled or any other device that does not allow the rifle to recoil rearward is an invitation for a cracked stock.



Not enabling the gun to recoil naturally would also have to have some effect on the regulation.

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SteveH
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Re: leadsled [Re: new_guy]
      #34874 - 20/07/05 04:29 AM

I've used mine on several of my rifles, from 30-06 to 458 Lott. All of these are bolt action, so the issues with doubles wouldn't apply.

It was reccomended to me by D'Arcy Echols.

I don't load it down so far as to mimic a cement wall. I put enough that I don't get the crap beat out of me when working up several Lott loads, though. So far no problems with scopes or stocks. No real effect of POI that I've noticed as well.

-Steve

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butchloc
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Re: leadsled [Re: SteveH]
      #34877 - 20/07/05 05:26 AM

I was to cheap to buy one so I made one. The butt of the stock is cradled in a sort of a cloth sack and placed against the shoulder. I've used it with my 470 double and my 9.3x74 o/u and both regulated shots just fine. It really takes the recoil away, but of course is only good from the bench. If you shoot much heavy stuff, it's a good investment. (also easy to make one)

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