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Waidmannshell,

I was scheduled to hunt in South Africa this summer, but with COVID-19, those plans were scrapped. Not sure what the future holds, but I am optimistic that it will eventually happen. Anyway, in my Gun preparation, the guide turned me on to an organization that is up-to-date on all African gun rules and regs and set everything up for me beautifully. It should elevate your Gun questions and concerns: https://www.hunterspermitsafrica.co.za/

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Waidmannshell,

I was scheduled to hunt in South Africa this summer, but with COVID-19, those plans were scrapped. Not sure what the future holds, but I am optimistic that it will eventually happen. Anyway, in my Gun preparation, the guide turned me on to an organization that is up-to-date on all African gun rules and regs and set everything up for me beautifully. It should elevate your Gun questions and concerns: https://www.hunterspermitsafrica.co.za/

Check them out.

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Agree with the above..the last tine I flew into Joberg I used a service..they met me there..all went very smooth

Think about Africa and many other places is they have rules..AND they make shit up as they go..so you never know what u r getting

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This is totally true.

I was detained at the airport in Nairobi back in 1980 due to a problem w/ my visa. the visa itself was good for 3 months but when questioned upon arrival, I'd answered "1 week". Then Mobutu shut down all flights into Zaire/Congo. I was able to scam a seat on a missionary plane violating the ban and the Kenyans had no problem with THAT, but tried to massage me over the overstay!

Then, in Zaire, I was held under house arrest for 3 days due to the illegal entry. {Yup, I was an "illegal alien!"}.

In 1988 going thru Heathrow I was told to remove the bolt on my .375 and pack that in my carry-on baggage, NOT with the rifle in its case. Then when being searched, later, all hell broke loose when a security genius picked up the bolt and asked what it was. I answered truthfully, adding that I'd been told to pack it in my carry on. The mental giant then fondled it a bit and...holding it by the bolt handle with the locking lug portion pointing away...declared it a gun and called for the police to arrest me! I protested as you can imagine {understatement....} and demanded that someone who had actually ever seen or handled a gun would be called and eventually, after much wrangling, some security guy who'd been in the Briths Army showed up and he and I had a big laugh while he dressed down the individuals who were demanding I head straight to gaol!

Bringing guns into South Africa in 1988 and 1989, all I got at customs was a compliment on my .375, a short yap about hunting and a good luck with the hunt. Left customs feeling like the officer was my older brother.

Leaving out more...all that to say I do not know the answer to your question OP but I'd be very careful if it was me and I'd take RIPP's comment to heart. Box of chocolates, you never know, etc...

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A really good friend of mine was there a couple years back..they came upon a road block.. the guy had a BLOW DRYER.. below it a piece of cardboard with a hand written speed on it that my friend and his PH were allegedly traveling at.. had to pay the fine and let them siphone gas before they could proceed..THAT is perhaps one of the craziest stories I have ever heard of..

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Sounds like that cop was just blowing hot air!!

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A really good friend of mine was there a couple years back..they came upon a road block.. the guy had a BLOW DRYER.. below it a piece of cardboard with a hand written speed on it that my friend and his PH were allegedly traveling at.. had to pay the fine and let them siphone gas before they could proceed..THAT is perhaps one of the craziest stories I have ever heard of..

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Waidmannshell,

I was scheduled to hunt in South Africa this summer, but with COVID-19, those plans were scrapped. Not sure what the future holds, but I am optimistic that it will eventually happen. Anyway, in my Gun preparation, the guide turned me on to an organization that is up-to-date on all African gun rules and regs and set everything up for me beautifully. It should elevate your Gun questions and concerns: https://www.hunterspermitsafrica.co.za/

Check them out.

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Agree with the above..the last tine I flew into Joberg I used a service..they met me there..all went very smooth

Think about Africa and many other places is they have rules..AND they make shit up as they go..so you never know what u r getting

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This is totally true.

I was detained at the airport in Nairobi back in 1980 due to a problem w/ my visa. the visa itself was good for 3 months but when questioned upon arrival, I'd answered "1 week". Then Mobutu shut down all flights into Zaire/Congo. I was able to scam a seat on a missionary plane violating the ban and the Kenyans had no problem with THAT, but tried to massage me over the overstay!

Then, in Zaire, I was held under house arrest for 3 days due to the illegal entry. {Yup, I was an "illegal alien!"}.

In 1988 going thru Heathrow I was told to remove the bolt on my .375 and pack that in my carry-on baggage, NOT with the rifle in its case. Then when being searched, later, all hell broke loose when a security genius picked up the bolt and asked what it was. I answered truthfully, adding that I'd been told to pack it in my carry on. The mental giant then fondled it a bit and...holding it by the bolt handle with the locking lug portion pointing away...declared it a gun and called for the police to arrest me! I protested as you can imagine {understatement....} and demanded that someone who had actually ever seen or handled a gun would be called and eventually, after much wrangling, some security guy who'd been in the Briths Army showed up and he and I had a big laugh while he dressed down the individuals who were demanding I head straight to gaol!

Bringing guns into South Africa in 1988 and 1989, all I got at customs was a compliment on my .375, a short yap about hunting and a good luck with the hunt. Left customs feeling like the officer was my older brother.

Leaving out more...all that to say I do not know the answer to your question OP but I'd be very careful if it was me and I'd take RIPP's comment to heart. Box of chocolates, you never know, etc...

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Good stories. Entertaining.

The cops in Asia are nicer, they tell you they will not embarrass you by putting the handcuffs on until AFTER you exit the airport, and are in the car park.

Most people have such boring travel stories.

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This is the simplest answer The snoobabs makes shit up as they go. Either because they have monkey brains, or are grumpy that day, you annoy them for some reason, perhaps they don't like your nose or something, they just want to ffff you around, OR just want to "TAX" you and pocket the bribe.

The last. TOO MANY people pay way too early and WAY TOO MUCH, and they reason it happens so much. Never paid the C@nts a bribe in my life. Including when asked outright for "beer money" had Jo'burg airport. Ffff them. I did worry a bit when leaving in case they remembered me and decided to loose my firearms.

Realistically Jo'burg is pretty easy by Snoobab African standards. Louis at Afton did once find out about a warehouse filled with "lost" firearms ...

I once spent a day trying to organise export permits, forex permits etc for more than "US$100 of souvenirs imported into Zimbabwe " (from Zambia, Tanzania etc and stupidly told the truth on an entry form). I went to the Reserve Bank, different govt offices etc. SHOULD HAVE JUST GREASED THE WHEELS AT THE BEGINNING! Ended up going to the airport and sending the stuff in a box unaccompanied on a plane. No documentation.

Snoobabs.

More and more we have white arsed snoobab species in Australia as well.

Matt, I think those headstamps are fine most of the time. Shit may and will happen. Part of the fun in snoobabland.

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Waidmannshell,

I was scheduled to hunt in South Africa this summer, but with COVID-19, those plans were scrapped. Not sure what the future holds, but I am optimistic that it will eventually happen. Anyway, in my Gun preparation, the guide turned me on to an organization that is up-to-date on all African gun rules and regs and set everything up for me beautifully. It should elevate your Gun questions and concerns: https://www.hunterspermitsafrica.co.za/

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Thanks gents for your replies.

However what is the requirements for markings on the rifle to match the cartridge headstamp. Is it something that they check or not.

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Thanks for the reply Rule, you have actually answered the question completely. And the answer is black and white. If there is even a small chance that the authorities require the Cartridge headstamp to match whats on the rifle then that's what needs to be done because there is no way that I would risk having my Rifle confiscated and a hunt ruined by taking a risk with some dumb but officious customs worker in Africa. Thanks again gents for the replies.

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Matt, that's an over reaction. You won't get a rifle confiscated. A much higher chance of having the rifle get lost. They will mess you around at worst. BTW I once had a white btw, customs guy in Jo'burg airport and it was obvious he could hardly read and write. It was painful watching him try to fill out the forms.

A useful phrase to learn: " What can I do, or, How can I, to get you to help me?" US$10 fixes a ot of purposeful mis-reading of forms and mismatched ammo. But don't do it too early or quickly , it only trains snoobabs to do it more often.

Travel is different from being at home. Be prepared. Do what can be reasonably done before hand. Stay flexible. Shit always will or may happen in the third world.

BTW some people decide only to travel with shit rifles in case they get lot.

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