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casper50
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need help with an unknown to me cartridge.
      #345147 - 17/09/20 02:28 PM

I recently bought a cape gun. Made in Belgium. Made a sulfur cast of the chamber. The dimensions follow in inches:
length = 1.41 35.8mm
cal = .43
neck of cartridge = .457
base of cartridge = .475
rim diameter = .535
rim thickness = .073

I went through the Manual for cartridge conversions but found nothing really close to the measurements. Any and all help is appreciated.

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Huvius
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Re: need help with an unknown to me cartridge. [Re: casper50]
      #345155 - 17/09/20 10:40 PM

Seems like it’s between the Austrian 11.15x36R Werndl cartridge and a 450 No.1 Rifle cartridge (sometimes called the 450 Kangaroo Rifle cartridge.


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casper50
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Re: need help with an unknown to me cartridge. [Re: Huvius]
      #345157 - 18/09/20 01:44 AM

The 450 #1 carbine and the 450 Kangaroo are the closest that I have found. Thank you Huvius for your help.

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Re: need help with an unknown to me cartridge. [Re: casper50]
      #345164 - 18/09/20 06:03 AM

Look here too:
https://www.oldammo.com/july16.htm

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casper50
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Re: need help with an unknown to me cartridge. [Re: Huvius]
      #345210 - 20/09/20 10:19 AM

Mauser 1871 11.15x37mmR has been tossed up. I can't find any case dimensions for it. Anyone know them?

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Re: need help with an unknown to me cartridge. [Re: casper50]
      #345283 - 24/09/20 02:56 AM

Caspar - Only from the Handloaders manual(you have looked?) and Hoyem V 2





I hope this helps

There would be appreciable variation at that time, the more common cartridges were usual in Cape Guns but nothing can be taken for granted

Good luck

TH44

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casper50
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Re: need help with an unknown to me cartridge. [Re: TH44]
      #345310 - 25/09/20 05:48 AM

That's the only photo or drawing that I've seen. Not the round since it's necked. Mine is straight. Thanks.

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