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PatagonHunter
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Re: 375 H&H vs 9.3x62-Cartridge-clash [Re: PatagonHunter]
      #356646 - 07/09/21 07:14 PM

Going back to the 375 H&H vs 9,3x62, I have both. A Winchester 70 pre-64 (1954) for the 375 and a BRNO ZKK 600 (1967) for the 9,3x62.
I have shooting and hunting with the 375 since I bought it, 1992, well used but well cared for, by a southafrican guy I never met. A lot more than with the 9,3x62 by the way! Looking at my records, the total shots with the 375 have been a little more than 1200. Yes, 1200. 95% at the paper and the balance in hunts.
With the 9,3x62, bought in 2017, I barely reach the 250...mostly at papers, of course, knowing the rifle and the cartridge and developing loads.
In my experience, they are different things. The 375 H&H has an "advantage" of around 200 f/s with all similar bullet weights, all other factors the same (Aprox. pressures and barrel lenght). Cannot be other way because the case capacity differences. Period.
Now, does this differences matter...? It depends of the personal needs.

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PH


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Re: 375 H&H vs 9.3x62-Cartridge-clash [Re: Ripp]
      #356647 - 07/09/21 11:03 PM

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Nothing wrong with trivia debates such as this. As previously stated, when “over killing”, it doesn’t make a hill of beans difference. When the game gets more serious, I believe in stepping up the power rather than show boating with an inadequate or marginal cartridge. Funny thing though….. how many people these days actually have the depth of field experience to discern the minutia between cartridges that are somewhat similar?





Exactly... getting to be fewer and fewer..




Another....exactly.

And on this forum there are an abundance of fellows who have in a year more game killing experience than I in my lifetime.

So I can only express what my limited experience is and by some quirk it occasionally resonates. I've owned two .375's {Heym and SAKO}. The Heym was junk and the only one I own now is my old SAKO, well-used over the years and now reblued and rescoped. Got that one in 1987. I've owned and still own two 9.3x62's and along those lines, did own three 9.3x57's. Two of the latter were M98 actioned 146 Husqvarnas along with one 46. Great black bear and deer rounds and good on close up elk, too. Maybe my favorites for deer and black bear, frankly, with the soft Prvi Partizan bullets. The x62's were/are a CZ550 converted from 6.5x55 and now my bear gun since I no longer have x57's. It's got a 16.5" barrel and is very handy with or without scope. The other x62 is one I got about 3 years ago and has become a favorite, a Sauer 100. Not usually my cup of tea, plastic stock and whatnot but wow what a nice functional rifle it is. And very light, scoped a little over 7 pounds.

I've killed deer, elk, & plains game in Africa and varmints with the .375. Deer, elk, black bear and varmints with the x62. All with those calibers at less than 200 yards. Those with more experience can scrap over which is better. I like them both. I don't notice much difference frankly and to that list of calibers with similar performance on similar game, truth told I could add a few other calibers as well, such as the .30-06. I remember Finn Aagaard saying something like that many years ago, making the point that on smaller thin-skinned game up to kudu/elk size} the mediums do well but not much noticeably better by actual witness than some of the lighter calibers, and that one notices the difference really as the game gets bigger. I guess I'll accept that point and not argue if somebody chooses to disagree.

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Northman
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Re: 375 H&H vs 9.3x62-Cartridge-clash [Re: Rule303]
      #356658 - 08/09/21 08:50 PM

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Hi Patagon,

As far as I know the muzzle Velocity of the 06 with a 150 grain bullet was around the 2700 fps and shortly afterwards 2800 fps. So not slower than the 8x57 by any worthwhile amount.

I do not know why the US did not develop a more efficient cartridge, however the 06 did give birth to some very worth while cartridges like the 270Win, 280Rem (and the other 7mms) and 35Whelen.





Well... the 9,3x62 and 7x64 Brenneke where decades ahead of those "improvements" based on the 30-06 case..


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rpeck



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Re: 375 H&H vs 9.3x62-Cartridge-clash [Re: NitroX]
      #359585 - 23/12/21 10:04 AM

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The reason for the growing popularity of the 9.3x62 in Canada are the very affordable rifles chambered in that calibre flooding in from Sweden. Most are some variant of Husqvarna (FN M-98, M-96, Model 1600, etc.). A good used 9.3x62 can be picked up for around $400.(U.S., including all taxes and shipping) For Canadian big game hunting (moose, elk, bear) the calibre is useful.





THAT is a nice looking rifle for $400.. Wonder if we can grab them down here somewhere?? Will have to look around..




I agree. Forget what I said earlier I want one of those.





Cleaned up the Husqvarna (FN 98) 9.3x62 carbine. Rust blued it. Ditched scope in favor of Talley peep. Removed side safety. Weighs 7.5 lb. Less is more.





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Re: 375 H&H vs 9.3x62-Cartridge-clash [Re: rpeck]
      #359589 - 23/12/21 01:28 PM

I've owned both a d killed plenty of game with both and came too two conclusions.
The 375H&H has more legs for 350m shots but has noticeably more recoil but it does have more power.
For 250m and under shots the 9.3x62 is noticeably more pleasant to shoot, I think of it as having 1/2 the felt recoil for 3/4 the power, but it is more of a rainbow trajectory.
For my hunting the 9.3's make more sence and I love the 375H&H.

Under 200m there isn't an animal on the planet that could tell the difference between them, both will do the same job out to that range.


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