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Wedgetail
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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: 93x64mm]
      #377122 - 02/06/23 07:36 PM

Thanks 93.

Spent a bit of time on the bottom metal:
Hogged the lanyard (or whatever it is) hole out.


Cut the hinge out


Formed it out of key stock


MIG’d it


Inlet the DST




Filled lock holes




Cleaned up ok




Just waiting for another sear to replace the bubba’d one so I can start on the Dunlop style double lobed kicker

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: Wedgetail]
      #377133 - 03/06/23 07:14 AM

Really nice work on the trigger guard !!!!!!!!!!

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #377137 - 03/06/23 08:01 AM

Slow & steady wins the race - money just speeds the pace up!

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: 93x64mm]
      #379244 - 10/09/23 01:17 PM

Thanks guys. Kind of like a long distance endurance race I guess…

Anyway the metal work may be finished, final cleaning up and tang filing excepted. Spent a while on the trigger and pretty happy with it - crisp 5.5lb pull on the unset front and a decent hair when set. To achieve this:
Built up the shroud to take the slop out to allow for a consistent cocking piece to sear height


Cut down a trigger, added a bit of (roughly) 1045




Welded a nut to adjust the depth of sear engagement, and formed the two lobes for the two triggers.


Unfortunately, once fitted up and tested front pull was 12lbs, and that was after I cut down the sear spring as much as I dared. So I swapped out the solid bit of the kick off piece for a 1/4” ball bearing. After polishing the lobes, polishing the receiver where the contact point is, hardening and replacing the pins with drill bit shaft, this reduced it to 5.5lbs





Pretty happy with its function now. Thoroughly tested operation with the bump test, repeated opening and closing of the bolt, trigger pull with safety on then releasing safety, all good. Think I can now move onto the stock

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Edited by Wedgetail (11/09/23 07:06 AM)

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: Wedgetail]
      #379270 - 11/09/23 06:31 AM

slow & steady mate - functioning's the main thing!

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Wedgetail
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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: 93x64mm]
      #385070 - 02/06/24 06:35 PM

Thanks 9.3. Well it’s still creeping along here. Got the stock to the shape I want, then sanded to 320. I’m going for a pure tung oil finish, so pulled the cap and plate off and sloshed very thinned oil everywhere, repeated. Reinstalled the black bits then wet sanded 50:50 cut Tung oil, wiped the sludge in, let it dry for a month then same again for 400 then again 600. When dry sanded back with 600 dry, then 800 then 1000. Then started coating more tung oil - I’m on coat 9 doing a coat a day. Will do one more then let it cure for a month, then will polish back with some hessian I think.

Anyway, I’m pretty happy with it - the fore end in particular I feel has the shape of an original Type B. The wet sanding did a great job filling the pores and it looks nice to my eyes. It’s not the most striking timber for sure but quite in keeping with an original. I better not screw up the checkering!

[image]https://i.imgur.com/KB3r2eHl.jpeg[/image]

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[img]https://i.imgur.com/pyPQLeRl.jpeg[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/1htntQCl.jpeg[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/JwhdWuXl.jpeg[/img]

Edit - my pictures aren’t showing - what am I doing wrong?

Edited by Wedgetail (02/06/24 08:07 PM)

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: Wedgetail]
      #385071 - 02/06/24 08:25 PM

Left click on an image, pointing above the little box containing a pencil and bin, then left click again on the copy button of line BBCode (message boards and forums). Now go to your post and right click below your text and select paste to post the BBCode line.

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Wedgetail
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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: eagle27]
      #385097 - 03/06/24 08:26 PM

Quote:

Left click on an image, pointing above the little box containing a pencil and bin, then left click again on the copy button of line BBCode (message boards and forums). Now go to your post and right click below your text and select paste to post the BBCode line.

that’s essentially what I did - same as whenever I’ve posted previous images. Can you see an issue with my bbcode?

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: Wedgetail]
      #385235 - 12/06/24 02:02 PM











Just had to lose the e in jpeg…

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: Wedgetail]
      #385654 - 07/07/24 01:00 PM

Checkering done. I reckon I got the layout fairly close, obviously I deviated by not putting a border in but I prefer this a more minimalist/pure approach which is also in keeping with the general aesthetics of a Type B. I’m reasonably happy with the job - it’s not perfect but I was never under the impression this was going to be a flawless build. I could’ve done more practice stocks but I’d like to keep this project moving and the end is now in sight! Just got to tidy up a few minor metal work cosmetics then it’s time for bluing…











btw it’s not surface rust on the metal it’s dried lanolin

Edited by Wedgetail (07/07/24 01:14 PM)

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: Wedgetail]
      #385655 - 07/07/24 02:54 PM

you run on the finnishing straight, its allways very satisfying when it comes to a good end

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: lancaster]
      #385658 - 07/07/24 04:35 PM

Looking very nice indeed Wedgie!

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Wedgetail
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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: 93x64mm]
      #385666 - 07/07/24 09:23 PM

Thanks guys

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: Wedgetail]
      #385964 - 23/07/24 08:23 AM

Looks like it's going to be a very handsome rifle in my favorite chambering.

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: JDL]
      #385966 - 23/07/24 09:18 AM

That is looking good and good timber for the stock. Well done.

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: Rule303]
      #385994 - 24/07/24 06:02 PM

Looking awesome and not far to go now!

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: metal]
      #385999 - 25/07/24 01:17 AM

What a great looking rifle. Well done.

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: DarylS]
      #386390 - 16/08/24 10:48 PM

That is one fine looking rifle. I think we have the same preference for old school rifles. I am currently building a very similar rifle, or I should say having one built as I am not qualified to do the work lol. I have a Mauser 98 action unmolested with scope ring holes etc. all matching numbers getting a LW 7x57 installed. It is the Lothar Walther Mauser sporter contour like Rigby used in the early 1900.

What has me stymied is the stock. The one you have is absolutely perfect Mauser sporter.
Two things I cannot stand on a rifle are recoil pads and straight combs for scopes, makes my stomach hurt.
I was able to by chance buy a stock off an old beater and will have to make a copy if I cannot salvage the original.
This week alone I’ve found 3 different original Oberndorf Mauser sporters with recoil pads installed! It’s almost too much to stomach lol. With all the plastic stocks out there why would anyone cut up a hundred year old piece of wood?

Anyway congratulations on a fine rifle will be watching for the finished photos.

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: K98]
      #386903 - 21/09/24 05:01 PM

Thanks guys - especially K98, your enthusiastic post have me the needed jolt to make a bit of progress today. Your build sounds fantastic - a matching numbers action is higher grade than mine - start a build thread! You obviously have correct taste in rifles…

Anyway, I started off tidying up a few messy bits like where I contoured the trigger bow short of the stock line. Also the cutout in the receiver for the bolt handle needed a sand and gave the front trigger a little return like the Oberndorf ones had.

I’ve just started the rust bluing run for all the small parts (everything bar the barreled action). 2% ammonium chloride solution, gives a nice rich blue after 7-10 cycles.

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: Wedgetail]
      #387304 - 18/10/24 06:35 PM

Bluing done. The ammonium chloride has given a really rich blue/black - I love it. Although the chrome moly barrel took many cycles to get an even finish. I scrapped the steaming, it was leaving streaks. Made a bluing tank from a steel fence strainer to span two burners on the kitchen hob, worked nicely.

Well, it’s taken me four years - but I think I’m done. Good thing I’m stubborn... But I’m really happy with the result. It may not be an original Type B, but it’s close enough for me.

Better anneal some of the massive load of used RWS brass so I can go hunting now…



















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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: Wedgetail]
      #387305 - 19/10/24 01:44 AM

Great job! She looks beautiful.

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: fjrdoc]
      #387306 - 19/10/24 04:01 AM

yes, looks very good

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: lancaster]
      #387309 - 19/10/24 06:16 AM

Lets see how good she shoots Wedgie - I hope as good as she looks!

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: 93x64mm]
      #387318 - 20/10/24 06:56 AM

Thanks guys. I must also mention a huge thanks to Metal for frequently offering his high grade Mauser and gunsmithing advice. And also Spud303 for detailed pictures and measurements of his Type B, and of course for sending the rear sight insert - the only genuine Type B part in the whole build. In fact this forum was instrumental in getting this build off the ground, so thank NitroX too!

93x64 - hopefully respectfully! I probably won’t obsess over finding the perfect load - just one the suits, check I can shoot it ok with iron sights and go hunting…

Edited by Wedgetail (20/10/24 07:00 AM)

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Re: 7x57 Type B Oberndorf style build [Re: Wedgetail]
      #387343 - 21/10/24 11:20 AM

Glad to help, you overcame many challenges along the way but you got it over the line.
Doesn’t matter how long it took, you faithfully recreated the metal and wood of the classic Oberndorf Mauser Sporter which you should be commended for.
Happy hunting.

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