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Waidmannsheil
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A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher
      #341704 - 04/06/20 09:42 PM


https://www.theexplora.com/an-old-j-rigby-rising-bite-sidelock-rifle-no-16611-256-mannlicher/


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Re: A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #341711 - 04/06/20 10:30 PM

A wooden top rib and underside? So the barrels are separated and maybe even have adjustable regulating wedges?

So my rubber wiper washer type ribs are not that revolutionary?

Looks nice that rifle.

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Re: A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher [Re: NitroX]
      #341713 - 05/06/20 12:10 AM

From the photos those ribs look like steel.

Strange

Maybe a call to Simon is in order.

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Re: A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher [Re: tinker]
      #342440 - 17/06/20 02:50 AM

Even though the article says Bell preferred the rimless 6.5x54, I recall seeing somewhere that he actually shot many elephants with the .256.
Am I remembering this wrong or has it been settled (or never will be)?

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Re: A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher [Re: Tom_H]
      #342465 - 17/06/20 05:03 PM

Tinker....regretable Simon passed away some ago.

Bell did indeed use the 6.5x54MS for killing Elephant and was very fond of it for such work.
He reports poor quality ammunition, which most likely turned him towards the 275 Rigby and 303, amongst others

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Re: A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher [Re: paradox_]
      #342479 - 18/06/20 12:13 AM

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Tinker....regretable Simon passed away some ago.

Bell did indeed use the 6.5x54MS for killing Elephant and was very fond of it for such work.
He reports poor quality ammunition, which most likely turned him towards the 275 Rigby and 303, amongst others

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I don't remember him being "fond" of the .256 for elephant at all? I do remember him thinking it very suitable and fond use of it for buffalo. Just my recollection. Have to read them all again.

And yes, he did write he jealously reserved his .275 Rigby for elephant.

Later he writes his .318 WR was his favourite elephant killer. Something most modern pundits don't know.

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Re: A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher [Re: tinker]
      #342480 - 18/06/20 12:16 AM

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From the photos those ribs look like steel.








Quote:

These pictures show the wooden top rib and its fastening method from underside.



From the photos, metal to in front of the rear sight. And wood from in front of the sling swivel.

Well disguised as metal at least in the photos.

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Re: A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher [Re: NitroX]
      #342484 - 18/06/20 02:27 AM

That was my impression as well, John. Interesting they or someone would do that.

The underribs on some muzzleloading rifles made in the States were wooden. Mostly in Tennessee or Kentucky I think.

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Re: A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher [Re: DarylS]
      #342487 - 18/06/20 02:56 AM

If the rifle has wedges between the barrels, where the rear sight is, and at the muzzles. It may mean they can be easily re-regulated. Keeps the cost of making way down.

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Re: A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher [Re: NitroX]
      #345329 - 25/09/20 05:30 PM

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""I don't remember him being "fond" of the .256 for elephant at all? I do remember him thinking it very suitable and fond use of it for buffalo. Just my recollection. Have to read them all again"".



When Bell stepped ashore on land still leased to Leopold, King of the Belgians, but occupied by the Congo authorities , he states the following

" After being granted a licence to hunt he recalls finding a nice little herd of bulls

“ several of which I killed with the brain shot”
At the time I was using a very light and sweet working Mann.-Sch. Carbine, 256 bore and weighing only 51/4 lb. With this tiny and beautiful little weapon I had extrodinary luck, and should have continued to use it in preference to my other rifles had not its Austrian ammunition developed the serious fault of splitting at the neck"".

Not withstanding Bells love of the Rigby 275.....perhaps with correct ammunition he would have stuck with the llitte 256??

Bell used many different rifles and was also very " fond" of the 303 due to its 10 shot magazine, a distinct advantage over his Rigby when amongst a big troop of Bulls.

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Re: A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher [Re: paradox_]
      #345372 - 27/09/20 07:35 AM

Didn’t Bell observe that the long thin bullets in the .256 would bend and going to a larger caliber stopped that?

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Re: A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher [Re: Rockdoc]
      #345390 - 27/09/20 10:24 PM

Bell definitely loved the 256 however he did also note that the 160 grain bullets had a tendency to bend if they hit heavy bone, unlike the 175 grain 7mm bullets which did not bend in the same way.

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Re: A magnificent Rigby Risisng Bite In 256 Mannlicher [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #345419 - 28/09/20 03:09 PM

True. I do remember reading that Bell most disliked using his 7x57 for buffalo, as he distinctly reserved that much loved rifle for elephant. And preferred to use his .256 Mannlicher for buffalo.

Nowadays we have 98% of people saying neither could kill either!

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