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TIMBERMAN
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45-70 by Kynoch
#341131 - 17/05/20 06:35 AM

I am wondering about the 45-70 Govt, cases and primers. Cartridges made by lots of different companies years ago, and so on. Looked at Cartridgecollector and found what I was wondering, if the 45-70 has been made with the 6,45 primer. And it looks like it is that one or similar size made by Kynoch.
Anyone who know if this was long ago they made it with that big beautiful primer, only in small series, or lots of them ?
Other companies made the cartridge with this primer? And I suppose it is a Boxer ?
Only seen the 6,45 primer in 9,3x57R/360. (Yes I am a rookie to this.)
And yes, also got a pack of 303 Kynoch with the 6,45 primers, or nearby size.

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DarylS
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Re: 45-70 by Kynoch [Re: TIMBERMAN]
#341181 - 18/05/20 03:09 AM

Sry - can't help.

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Daryl

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TIMBERMAN
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Re: 45-70 by Kynoch [Re: DarylS]
#341182 - 18/05/20 05:19 AM

No worries, always nice with a reply. I have talked with som friends, collectors today. And I think I got the information I did not want to hear. Anyway it looks like the 6,45 primer is only Berdan in the Kynoch 45-70. What he also could tell was that this primer was very common at the end of 1800s. He had been offered some primers for Boxer in 6,45 in Austria, and remembered that the seller said they were for some other purpose than ordinary rifle cartridges. It would work to lathe/drill change it to one hole and use them.
Sounds very odd to me, and complicated just for an estetic effect.
Thought it was made standard 6,45 in boxer primer. Well well, a short not so much about not so mich

But sometimes the small things are the big things.

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93x64mm
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Re: 45-70 by Kynoch [Re: TIMBERMAN]
#341187 - 18/05/20 08:02 AM

Doesn't appear to have in the 'new' lot.
Some surprises in there though
http://www.kynochammunition.co.uk/cartridge%20collection.html

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TH44
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Re: 45-70 by Kynoch [Re: 93x64mm]
#341189 - 18/05/20 08:07 AM

Almost all original Kynoch case were Berdan primed IIRC

TH44

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DarylS
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Re: 45-70 by Kynoch [Re: TH44]
#341192 - 18/05/20 11:35 AM

They all were, but no idea what the "sizes" happened to be.

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