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Waidmannsheil
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Re: Another Bog-Standard Jeffery Mannlicher [Re: Marrakai]
#339787 - 05/04/20 10:07 AM

Thanks Tony, I see what you mean, I thought you had problems with the cartridges jamming. Makes sens what you say.

Here at the Vic BGRC we shoot CLN regularly, it is one of the favorite events.
Obviously you are talking about when shooting the trophy sequence.
What we do in the case of rifles which must use a clip to load such as the Mannlichers is that the shooter informs the RO that he has such a gun and then he can load the clip with four rounds to suit. What we do in that case at 25 yards is load a clip with four, and then another clip with four, and then eject the last clip which still has two rounds in it into your hand before the rifle gets cleared.

Its a great event with many nice rifles in it.

Matt.

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Waidmannsheil
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Re: Another Bog-Standard Jeffery Mannlicher [Re: Marrakai]
#339788 - 05/04/20 10:25 AM

Tony, I have measured factory Kynoch brass as well as factory S&B and military and they all measure O.516". Of course what is also important is that the outside edge of the rim has a small chamfer or radius otherwise it will foul in the clip where the inside bend radius is.

I have bought heaps of clips from a chap here in Australia and one in Holland as well as single ones here and there from the US and the UK. All off eBay. There are no problems so long as you don't choose a seller that uses eBay's own global shipping program or else they confiscate the clips. They refund the money to the buyer and pay the seller as well but confiscate the clips none the less, fucking bastards.

The best thing that I did was to get a clip in good condition and then polish the inside edges of the clip and radius the outer corners and make it all smooth so that the brass doesn't drag or get scratched as much.Then I have it bead blasted with very fine grit. Then I take it to a company called Guhring and have it PVD coated with Titanium Aluminum Nitride (TiN-TiAlN)( Their name for it is FIRE) which is a corrosion resistant coating which is harder than carbide and has a low co-efficient of friction and is the same colour as blueing. After that they work fantastic.

I am going to try Hydro-blasting instead of bead blasting on a couple as I believe that they will come up a little shinier than bead blasting which is more of a satin finish.

Matt.

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Re: Another Bog-Standard Jeffery Mannlicher [Re: Marrakai]
#339797 - 05/04/20 11:41 AM

Lovely rifle mate. I would love mine to end up looking something like that. If I am not convinced to leave mine as a vintage mil and flogging it off.

Bruce Bertram makes 6.5x53R brass. I am sure I bought a reasonable quantity of them when visiting Bruce, for the never never rifle.

I've got a great big bucket of packets of brass bought from Bruce from that trip put somewhere in my shed(s).

Plus a quantity, 4 or 10 (?) of virtually every brass he makes or had on hand at the time. For photos. Should start using them for photos.

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Marrakai
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Re: Another Bog-Standard Jeffery Mannlicher [Re: NitroX]
#339806 - 05/04/20 01:40 PM

Thanks John. Most of my usable cases are reformed .303s.

However the rifle presented here came from a deceased estate with a couple hundred mil-surp rounds with nickel FMJ projectiles and small-diameter domed Berdan primers. Headstamp is "AI" which I understand indicates Dutch manufacture by Artillerie Inrichtingen.
The cartridges were all in clips with 10 clips per box IIRC.
Most of the clips surplus to my requirements have already been given away!
Headstamped date is 23C, not sure if that means 1923 but they either dud-fire or hang-fire badly so could be!

The rim diameter of the AI brass is 0.526 inch.

...and I take your point about bevelling the rims after turning them down Matt. Always do this anyway.

But I am amazed at your sterling efforts to improve operation of the clips! A quick spray of aerosol silicone is the most I have entertained!

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