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"Life is too short to hunt with an ugly gun."

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Life is to short to hunt with a tomato stake.

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Tomato stakes nowadays are usually black and plastic.

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"Life is too short to hunt with an ugly gun."

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Steady on, old boy! Just because the Savage is ugly, there's no need to relegate it to horticultural duty just yet. At least wait for the hideous plastic fittings to start breaking off first.

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Exactly.. would be impossible for me to care any less how it looks while I am out hunting. Apparently I am not alone, look at all the people out hunting with mausers..

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And I'm sure you were referring to the current product line from "Mauser", and not the classic family of rifles that we all know and admire...

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Steady on, old boy! Just because the Savage is ugly, there's no need to relegate it to horticultural duty just yet. At least wait for the hideous plastic fittings to start breaking off first.

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Just referring to the historical tomato stakes M98 and the like, not the current green friendly types like the savage

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Just referring to the historical tomato stakes M98 and the like, not the current green friendly types like the savage

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Let this be a lesson, boys and girls, on the sad consequences of inhaling the toxic fumes given off plastic firearms.

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Exactly.. would be impossible for me to care any less how it looks while I am out hunting. Apparently I am not alone, look at all the people out hunting with mausers..

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I made that comment in jest, but actually no. And I will probably be banned off of all firearms sites for life.. But they do nothing for me. Never have. At this state of life, (I'm old) pretty sure that won't change. Fully agree there is nothing much nicer than a beautifully wood stocked rifle for Africa or other destinations. Have plenty of them but they mostly reside in the safe. For what and where I hunt, I'll take a synthetic every time.. no change on POI because of rain, snow, cold, or whatever.. don't care about scratches and niches, etc.. and I like how they look..

Look at it this way, me not liking them leaves more for everyone else...

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Exactly.. would be impossible for me to care any less how it looks while I am out hunting. Apparently I am not alone, look at all the people out hunting with mausers..

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I made that comment in jest, but actually no. And I will probably be banned off of all firearms sites for life.. But they do nothing for me. Never have. At this state of life, (I'm old) pretty sure that won't change. Fully agree there is nothing much nicer than a beautifully wood stocked rifle for Africa or other destinations. Have plenty of them but they mostly reside in the safe. For what and where I hunt, I'll take a synthetic every time.. no change on POI because of rain, snow, cold, or whatever.. don't care about scratches and niches, etc.. and I like how they look..

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True on all counts, my friend. I freely admit that synthetic is the way to go for a working rifle in harsh conditions, and I fully support your right to like the weapon of your chosing. If I were an Alaskan guide or someone else who depended on his rifle as a tool of his trade in all weathers, I'd definitely be carrying a stainless/synthetic. I don't argue the functional superiority; I just wish the skinny-jeans kids that "style" them wouldn't try so hard to make them not look "like granddad's rifle", that's all.

And we sure do appreciate that you're leaving more of the good stuff for us. We're returning the courtesy!

Don't worry if you get banned for not liking walnut and blued steel; you can always go over to the black rifle forums. Those junior G.I.Joes will welcome you with open arms. They were injection-moulded at birth.

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Exactly.. would be impossible for me to care any less how it looks while I am out hunting. Apparently I am not alone, look at all the people out hunting with mausers..

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I made that comment in jest, but actually no. And I will probably be banned off of all firearms sites for life.. But they do nothing for me. Never have. At this state of life, (I'm old) pretty sure that won't change. Fully agree there is nothing much nicer than a beautifully wood stocked rifle for Africa or other destinations. Have plenty of them but they mostly reside in the safe. For what and where I hunt, I'll take a synthetic every time.. no change on POI because of rain, snow, cold, or whatever.. don't care about scratches and niches, etc.. and I like how they look..

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True on all counts, my friend. I freely admit that synthetic is the way to go for a working rifle in harsh conditions, and I fully support your right to like the weapon of your chosing. If I were an Alaskan guide or someone else who depended on his rifle as a tool of his trade in all weathers, I'd definitely be carrying a stainless/synthetic. I don't argue the functional superiority; I just wish the skinny-jeans kids that "style" them wouldn't try so hard to make them not look "like granddad's rifle", that's all.

And we sure do appreciate that you're leaving more of the good stuff for us. We're returning the courtesy!




Don't worry if you get banned for not liking walnut and blued steel; you can always go over to the black rifle forums. Those junior G.I.Joes will welcome you with open arms. They were injection-moulded at birth.

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Yes, been getting mailers daily from the PROUD BOYS..

Just so there is no confusion, I never said I wasn't a fan of walnut and blued steel, I just said most of mine stay in the safe .. but have many of that type including a WR double.. Actually have a custom in 416 on a mauser action (heaven forbid) .. that has never seen the field.. sad I know..

As to the black rifle club.. also have no problem with them.. love them actually.. a ton of fun and very handy should a group like ANTIFA show up in the neighborhood...

Fortunately we still have the ability to buy most of what we want here... which is a very nice option to have in today's crazy out of control world..

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LOT of truth in that...

I remember the first blued/walnut rifle I ever bought.. Was NOT an expensive rifle by any means..but at the time I had saved for 2 years to buy it.. put the first scratch's on the stock..was sick about it for a week..

I also feel the reason there are so many synthetic is demand as well as cost.. people like them.. impervious to weather, don't care if you drop them down a ravine , and lighter weight to name a few .. the MTN rifles of today compared to the "light" rifles of days gone by hold a vast difference to one another.. I'll take today's version.. for all the reasons mentioned above.

There isn't a whole lot of things prettier than a beautifully wood stocked rifle with polished blue steel.. no doubt.. but for the real world of hunting, just like in college, I'll take the so called ugly ones..

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Sorry for being late to the party. Normally I let you guys just go ahead with these critiques and offer no comments. You guys actually do a good job with out my helpat pointing out possible faults.

But, or is this butt? You guys has sure failed in this one. You put Rosie in the seat of the Corvette when you should have put Twiggy there.

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I watched Louis on TV do a doco on plastic surgery in LA and those broads I wouldn't want to ffff either ... as for the guys, well they probably do well in shade with the other lady boys.

That Savage is no Twiggy! Who is one of those uber ugly fat lipped modern "singers" of a sun tanned persuasion?

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Reduction in cost through plastic stocks, should allow more to be put into the barrels and chamberings - does it or is it just more profit due to the reduction in manufacturing costs?
They do seem to have increased the costs of these 'black guns' over the cost of wooden stocked guns of the same chamberings.

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The main reason for all the plastic stocks by makers is simply cost. They are cheaper to make and cheaper for the buyer to buy.

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The main reason it is what it is? Cost.

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6 pounds + scope, so a 7 lb. .308 or 6.5 PRC through .30/06 wouldn't be bad.
The magnum cases, no thanks.
A friend of mine has an older Savage .300WinMag that is very light - 7 pounds with scope, he says. It is brutal to shoot at the range until he had a brake made for it. Now of course it weighs a tich more and is some 2" longer.

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