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Wow, a hillbilly pump from Krieghoff. That is something new.

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Like the Blaser, the Semprio has a very tight radius pistol grip. In a large caliber, this will be a fine and utterly painful knuckle buster. These funky new designers of these uncomfortable hard kicking large caliber stocks would do well to wake up and pay attention to the old British masters of “proper” stock design like H&H, WR, etc, and open up that pistol grip radius so one can actually comfortably fire the bloody things.

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The worst tight grip "knuckle buster" I have experienced was the old Steyr-Mannlicher "Professional" (The one with the plastic stock). In a relatively mild recoiling caliber like 30-06 it would really rap your knuckles with every shot. I had a couple, but the "knuckle busting," plus the "unbreakable" magazine (i.e. very breakable if dropped when filled with ammunition) was reason enough to get rid of both of them.

I wouldn't mind seeing at least a few modern bolt action rifles offered with a totally straight grip.





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after looking at such abnormalities like above its like finding inner peace when someone post a pic of an old mannlicher

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Like the Blaser, the Semprio has a very tight radius pistol grip. In a large caliber, this will be a fine and utterly painful knuckle buster. These funky new designers of these uncomfortable hard kicking large caliber stocks would do well to wake up and pay attention to the old British masters of “proper” stock design like H&H, WR, etc, and open up that pistol grip radius so one can actually comfortably fire the bloody things.

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Wow, a hillbilly pump from Krieghoff. That is something new.

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This must be what Homer was talking about in another thread recently..

European firearm vs American gun..

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To operate, the entire barrel in-line
assembly is simply pushed forward,
which unlocks the gun and frees the
chamber for the next cartridge from
the magazine.
Pulling back the entire barrel in-line
assembly feeds the next round from the
magazine, closes and locks the rifle for
immediate firing.
You are now ready for quick follow up
shots. The design of the in-line system
with its symmetric cocking slide ensures
that the SEMPRIO repeater can be
used by both right and left-handed
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What a pain in the arse ... needing to move the whole barrel to rack a slide.... some of these modern EU designs are so ridiculous. Whole of barrel pumps, integrated removable triggers and magazines... removable magazines tucked away in difficult to access places inside a slide forend ...

The Verney-Carron designs on the other hand are good. The pump action ie "inline" is a smaller, lighter slide than usual, not the whole forend. And the impact rifl
e is a good alternative if semi autos are not legal.

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The Americans don't re-invent new over-tech rifle designs, they just keep re-inventing older and better cartridges with new versions and names so they can sell consumers their one hundredth rifle doing nothing more new than most of the previous 99.

Euros often with a limit of firearms which can be owned seem to be looking for always multi barrel rifles and options. With driven hunting the old Mauser 98's are "too slow", and semi autos are often banned or discouraged. They seem to love ridiculous over engineered plastic pieces of crap nowadays ...

Give me an old Mauser 98 action and a good side by side double both over one hundred and twenty years old and the cartridges almost as old and I am happy ...

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Krieghoff Semprio, In-Line Repeater tutorial

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Well, at least we are inventing..which is more than I've seen coming out of Euope or anywhere else for that matter..

They just keep telling us how great they were..

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BTW has anyone got any comments on the Krieghoff claim that the best way to position open sighs is for the front sight a the muzzle as usual, and the rear sight being positioned 11 1/2 inches to the rear of the front sight?

Leaving possibly a very large stretch from the action to the rear sights on longer barrels.

The old rule beginning with long barrelled muzzle loads was a longer sight picture from rear sight to front sight improved open sight accuracy.

I think the Krieghoff methodology is that positioning the sights closer allows the eyes to see the two sights as one picture quicker. And for faster aiming and shooting.

What do you think?

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