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ColoradoMatt1
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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: NitroX]
      #332841 - 30/09/19 10:17 PM

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Lovely stutzen Joel.

Yes I will growl and would go for a smaller scope.

I noticed the rear sights were further back than usual, then saw they are part of the QD scope bases as well. Haven't seen that before.

Thanks for posting Joel. Another of your rifle artworks. Hopefully your dwindling supply of Mauser actions lasts out. For me oneday!




I corresponded with Gottfried Prechtl, through e-mail about making a run of Oberndorf Type A rear sights. He said that modern shooter, and especially older eyes, prefer rear open sights to be farther forward, and so he refused my request. Most original Oberndorf rear sights sit quite far back on the barrel. I am in my mid 40’s, and I have recently noticed some difficulty with the Oberndorf rears compared to when I was younger and eagle eyed.


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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #332848 - 01/10/19 02:53 AM

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Strange that they should be so heavy as Mayfair like all the others claim that their actions are dimensional copies of the originals, other than the safety and trigger




A photo is better than a long explanation.
The action pictured at the top is an Original Mauser Kurz on which we carried out various tests. Note that the magazine is not the original box and that it has been replaced here by a model of new manufacture (FZH), more imposing and heavier than the Oberndorf one.
The action photographed below is an excellent kurz by MAYFAIR.
You will notice the difference in diameter on the front receiver ring and the absence of milling and machining that allow lightening.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: DORLEAC]
      #332852 - 01/10/19 04:03 AM

Interesting boltshroud / safety . Function resembles the BRNO M21 , but on the right side and more Mauser like shaped.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: DORLEAC]
      #332858 - 01/10/19 07:33 AM

Joel, thanks for showing the two actions together, you can clearly see where there are differences. As well as the three things you mentioned there are also a few others.

The trigger guard is wider and not shaped
The rear tang has no sweep
The front of the floor plate is thicker
The bolt shroud is heavier

When you add it all up it obviously make s a big difference.

Are there similar differences with say the Magnum actions as well.

Matt.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: DORLEAC]
      #332872 - 01/10/19 02:52 PM

Joel, thanks for posting the comparison actions. Interesting.

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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
      #332876 - 01/10/19 05:14 PM

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I am in my mid 40’s, and I have recently noticed some difficulty with the Oberndorf rears compared to when I was younger and eagle eyed.




Unfortunately, it gets worse.



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Re: 308W Mauser Stutzen by DORLEAC [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #332879 - 01/10/19 10:35 PM

Mr. DORLEAC,

Iteresting and strange that boltshroud in the original Kurtz Mauser Action!! Is it also original?

To me, the Mayfair action has metal in excess to be reworked if needed, or wanted.

Thanks!

PH


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