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Waidmannsheil
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MS rifle in 220 Swift
#329509 - 20/06/19 08:23 PM

I have just finished reading Donald Dallas's book on the gunmaker John Dickson and at the back of the book is a reprint of their 1962 catalogue. Page 7 is dedicated to sporting rifles and shown is a Mannlicher Schoenauer rifle and in the calibers listed there is the 220 Swift along with the .256, .275 and 270 Winchester at 70 British Pounds.

Interesting that they were still offering MS rifles in 1962 along with BSA rifles.

Anybody ever seen one or heard of one?

Matt.

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Re: MS rifle in 220 Swift [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#329515 - 20/06/19 10:25 PM

have never seen that rifle in 220 Swift, but have to say I really like the 220 Swift Caliber... Have shot many, many rounds of that caliber at p-dogs, coyotes, etc... super flat hard hitting caliber...

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Re: MS rifle in 220 Swift [Re: Ripp]
#329518 - 21/06/19 02:13 AM

That's interesting. The 220 Swift has a 'working' pressure limit of 62,000psi and the .270's is 65,000psi, both much higher than the more 'normal' MS ctgs.

My swift was fun, but after a re-chamber to .220 Swift IMP did not increase performance, I cut the barrel back and played with a .220 Short Swift of 1.6".(the original .22PPC)

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Re: MS rifle in 220 Swift [Re: DarylS]
#329531 - 21/06/19 07:43 AM

Don't forget that Steyr also brought out the MS in 264 Win Mag, 338 Win Mag, 458 Win Mag as well as 257 Weatherby Magnum. All high pressure cartridges. The lower pressure proprietary cartridges were all pre-war.

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Re: MS rifle in 220 Swift [Re: Ripp]
#329532 - 21/06/19 07:49 AM

Yes, very rare and in this case it seems to be unique to Dicksons.
Bell was a big fan of the 220 swift in later years when he returned to live in Scotland where he used the cartridge regularly for hunting red deer. He raved about the cartridge and its killing power.
Maybe that's why Dicksons decided to offer a modified MS to suit the 220 swift as that was about the same time as Bell was living back in Scotland. Interesting.

Matt.

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