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mikev
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Mannlicher system carbine on Guns International- interesting
      #326646 - 31/03/19 06:10 AM

I never saw anything like this. It is listed as a Mannlicher semi auto serial number 1.
Below is the link to the page. Hopefully it will work. If not check out the Mannlicher-Schoenauer listing on GI.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101197952


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Re: Mannlicher system carbine on Guns International- interesting [Re: mikev]
      #326681 - 01/04/19 04:24 AM

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101197952

"Description:
Wow this is one very cool find. The family of a World War 2 veteran brought this in to us, explaining that his dad brought this home as a "war trophy" after picking it up in Germany on the march to Berlin. Not only is this semi-auto carbine something we have never seen before, but it is the very first one made, serial number 1!!! We have been unable to find much information at all about it online or otherwise. From what we have found, it is a scaled-down version of the experimental Mannlicher Model 1905. The full size experimental M1905 was chambered in 8mm Mauser, while this rifle appears to be in some obscure and short 9.3mm cartridge. Outside of the chambering and physical dimensions of the rifle, the action and appearance is nearly identical to the full size 8mm Mauser model. The semi-auto rifle uses an integral 5-round rotary magazine and a recoiling bolt and barrel assembly (the barrel assembly moves over a 1/2 inch rearward in addition to the bolt cycling rearward). The ride side of the carbine has a bolt-stop lever mounted on the side of the receiver, and the safety is a lever mounted to the right of the trigger assembly. The serrated button on the left side of the receiver is a cartridge release allowing the user to empty the cartriges out of the carbine without cycling them thru the action. The 5-round rotary magazine can be accessed by pushing the button mounted ahead of the triggerguard on the bottom of the rifle while pulling down with two fingers in the recesses on each side of the receiver. This rare little carbine appears to be all-original and unmolested. The finish appears to be the original factory blue finish and the stock set is the original wood. As you can see from the close-up pictures of the left side of the carbine a piece of the handguard has been broken off at the rear. The original broken piece of wood comes with the gun and could be repaired by someone skilled in stock repair. There is a picture provided with the 2 pieces of wood laid on the gun to show what it looks like. The barrel of this Mannlicher carbine is 20.5" inches long with a solid rib and iron sights. The rear sight has a notched rear blade with a flip-up leaf for 200 meters. The overall length of this carbine measures 40.5" inches. Most of the parts of this rare gun are unmarked except for the receiver and barrel assembly which is serial numbered "1". The unique action on this carbine seems to be in perfect working order but the mainspring seems to be weak and the threaded-in barrel is loose. The internals are nice enough that we have no doubt if the mainspring was replaced and the barrel tightened up in theory it would function. With that being said, this carbine should be treated as one-of-a-kind and is a collectible and not a shooter. We will continue to attempt to find information about this amazing gun and add it to the listing if found. If you have been looking for a really cool gun for your collection that absolutely no one you know has, this is it!! Serial number 1 of an experimental semi-auto Mannlicher carbine from the early 1900's! "

















































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Re: Mannlicher system carbine on Guns International- interesting [Re: lancaster]
      #326711 - 02/04/19 12:58 AM

Here is a picture of a similar gun with scope and engraving, can't remember where I got the pix.

http://vintagesemiautorifle.proboards.co...nauer-automatic


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Re: Mannlicher system carbine on Guns International- interesting [Re: lancaster]
      #326721 - 02/04/19 03:16 AM

Now this is interesting:
"... while this rifle appears to be in some obscure and short 9.3mm cartridge"

In the cartridge collection that I inherited from my Dad is this - on the right:



9,3mm bullet (appears to be the 12.5 g or 193 grain flatpoint bullet for the 9,3x72R, see the post-war RWS bullet for comparison

Case length is 38 mm

Head dimensions similar to 6,5x54 Mannlicher-Schönauer

Headstamp reads: R.W.S. N
(generic RWS before WW II)

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Re: Mannlicher system carbine on Guns International- interesting [Re: fuhrmann]
      #326726 - 02/04/19 05:06 AM

would be a possible cartridge for this unicorn

the right man for this question is Josef Mötz in austria

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