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DORLEAC
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DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser
#322452 - 14/12/18 09:04 AM

When a customer asks you to build a particular rifle and is able to convince you to abandon your usual manufacturing style to go to the standards of G&H you must take up the challenge!
Thus was born this very special 9,3x62 which borrows from the great New York manufacturer its general look and the famous scope side mount patented in 1932 but which also pays tribute to H&H with its detachable stock and to Otto Bock from Berlin with its chambering.
Do not criticise the customer's optics choice, he wanted this Leupold scope and we responded to his expectations.

Regards to all.

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: DORLEAC]
#322458 - 14/12/18 10:30 AM

That gun is AWESOME!!!

THANKS for posting!!!

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: 9.3x57]
#322460 - 14/12/18 11:49 AM

Very "Retro"

Very "Hemmingway".

Very nice.

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: twobobbwana]
#322462 - 14/12/18 02:45 PM

So very nice!

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: tinker]
#322466 - 14/12/18 04:25 PM

Great rifle but I would like to see some fotos from stocks inside too.

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: Igorrock]
#322478 - 15/12/18 08:12 AM

True gun maker's art Mr D.
To take what a customer envisions & make it real!
I guess we'd all like to know how the H&H detachable stock actually functions.
Twobobbwana nailed it...
Very "Hemmingway"!

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: 93x64mm]
#322500 - 16/12/18 02:15 AM

I'm seeing only two screws and no pins holding that side mount on. Is there more than meets the eye?

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Edited by jgrabow (16/12/18 02:21 AM)

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9.3x57
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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: jgrabow]
#322501 - 16/12/18 03:10 AM

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I'm seeing only two screws and no pins holding that side mount on. Is there more than meets the eye?

Wondered about that, too.

It's certainly a fine work of the gunmaker's art but what about after a few hundred rounds?

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DORLEAC
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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: jgrabow]
#322502 - 16/12/18 03:55 AM

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I'm seeing only two screws and no pins holding that side mount on. Is there more than meets the eye?

Glad to notice that our pins aren't visible.
The base has been specially machined with a flange resting on the front receiver ring and is soldered...no problem, even with a bigger scope !
Concerning the detachable stock system it's a variation of the take down modification found on the pre-war Mannlicher-Schönauer rifles sold on the English market.
Its application on Mauser actioned repeaters was first used by Westley-Richards before WW1, then by H&H to replace their barrel unscrewing take apart system.
Sorry for my English, it's a quick reply...!

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: DORLEAC]
#322503 - 16/12/18 04:11 AM

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I'm seeing only two screws and no pins holding that side mount on. Is there more than meets the eye?

Glad to notice that our pins aren't visible.
The base has been specially machined with a flange resting on the front receiver ring and is soldered...no problem, even with a bigger scope !
Concerning the detachable stock system it's a variation of the take down modification found on the pre-war Mannlicher-Schönauer rifles sold on the English market.
Its application on Mauser actioned repeaters was first used by Westley-Richards before WW1, then by H&H to replace their barrel unscrewing take apart system.
Sorry for my English, it's a quick reply...!

DORLEAC
www.dorleac-dorleac.com

Very interesting!

The gun looked so nice I didn't want to find out it had a botched job of scope mounting so I let the other guy broach the subject!

Your answer calms my fears!

Very nice work!

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: 9.3x57]
#322505 - 16/12/18 07:51 AM

Sir, your are a master gunmaker!

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: DORLEAC]
#322510 - 16/12/18 09:06 AM

Outstanding.

Mr D. you continually set your self a very high standard and never fail to achieve that standard.

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: Rule303]
#322512 - 16/12/18 10:50 AM

9.3x57, I was sure Mr. Dorleac did not botch the job. I just wanted to know what and how they did the job.

What a fantastic rifle.

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: DORLEAC]
#322521 - 16/12/18 04:05 PM

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Sorry for my English, it's a quick reply...!

DORLEAC
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Sir; your written English is better than that of many of my countrymen (U.S.), your artistry and craftsmanship are extraordinary to say the least.

Thank you for sharing these masterworks with us and the with the world via Nitro Express Forums.

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: Rothhammer1]
#322567 - 18/12/18 06:19 AM

M Dorleac

That’s really nice. I much prefer the longer forend that the more English style.

Is the barrel free floating, or is firmly bedded. And the barrel band sling - does that affect the accuracy, or provided the sling is loose it doesn’t affect accuracy. A barrel mounted sling is so much more comfortable to carry.

Thanks

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DORLEAC
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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: HeymSR20]
#322571 - 18/12/18 08:56 AM

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Is the barrel free floating, or is firmly bedded. And the barrel band sling - does that affect the accuracy, or provided the sling is loose it doesn’t affect accuracy. A barrel mounted sling is so much more comfortable to carry.

We never do free floated barrel and when the inletting is perfect that doesn't affect accuracy.
To date we have never encountered precision trouble on our rifles that usually print cloverleaf.
However on this one you will notice that there are provisions for quick detachable sling swivel under the forend and the stock rear. Our client, who is also a shooter, wanted that kind of arrangement to use a shooting sling fitted on the stock and rely on the barrel band sling swivel only to carry the rifle...

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: DORLEAC]
#322586 - 18/12/18 09:52 PM

Beautiful rifle with a very nice stock, lovely shape, and I agree with the slightly longer forearm, the proportions look perfect. Very nice metal work as well. I never really liked the side-mounts much before but recently acquired a nice MS 1903 from Beesley with a side-mount. It has the base only and I will make the rings for it.

Joel, there are two small screws next to the levers, do these adjust a gibb strip to eliminate sideways movement of the rings or do they contact the dovetail directly.

Thanks for posting.

Matt.

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DORLEAC
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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#322588 - 19/12/18 01:10 AM

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Joel, there are two small screws next to the levers, do these adjust a gibb strip to eliminate sideways movement of the rings or do they contact the dovetail directly.

These screws are there only to prevent the levers from tilting too far when tipped to unlock the removable part of the assembly.
On these G&H original versions, entirely in steel, and especially when you take the trouble to specifically machine the base, the side play is just minimum to allow the fitting of the rail supporting the scope.
Note also that on that side mount model disassembly is done forward which allows using a scope with a larger diameter front lens.

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: DORLEAC]
#322595 - 19/12/18 07:08 AM

Thanks Joel, makes sense, obviously I was getting a too technical when there was simple answer. Yes I noticed that the scope slides on from the front, very nice. Thanks again.

Matt.

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Re: DORLEAC going G&H style on 9,3x62 Mauser [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#322706 - 23/12/18 12:29 AM

Joel,

With the bedding I assume you just use proper inletting techniques - ie smoke, sharp tools and time, rather than using epoxy. On the barrel do you put upwards pressure. And do you put in metal pillars.

I am about start stocking a 223 Remington with a Varmint weight barrel. Have a nice straight grained walnut blank that has been sitting since 2000 waiting for a project. Much as I would love to give you a commission school fees etc are still a fact of life, so will quietly do it myself over the next couple of years. I will use the pictures as inspiration. I am building this a range rifle for my daughter and I to shoot.

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