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Cartridges based on the .303 British
      #320442 - 07/10/18 08:24 PM

http://www.cartridgecollector.net/cartridges-based-303-british

don't know before there were so much different and it seems this are not all yet

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Re: Cartridges based on the .303 British [Re: lancaster]
      #320452 - 08/10/18 03:44 AM

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http://www.cartridgecollector.net/cartridges-based-303-british

don't know before there were so much different and it seems this are not all yet




Interesting... have not even heard of most of those..

The .303 British was the first centerfire rifle I even owned as a farm kid in N Dakota.. used if for many Whitetail ..all I used actually from the time I was 12 until I was 19...open sights..good shooter..still have that.. was my uncles, plan to give it to my son..

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Re: Cartridges based on the .303 British [Re: Ripp]
      #320455 - 08/10/18 04:32 AM

I have a .303/.270 in my collection - likely Australian.

I have also made up .303/224, .303/35 and .303/375 as well as the .40/60 Maynard just to ponder over them.

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Re: Cartridges based on the .303 British [Re: DarylS]
      #320462 - 08/10/18 08:03 AM

I remember an Uncle who used to get the 'Outdoors' magazine, I'll have to look in the old bureau here & see what I come up with!

I'm sure it had rifles in it that were 303/243 & 7.7x54R which the last was a 'up yours' to the NSW Government at the time.
In the end common sense ruled & the military rifle calibre debacle faded into history!
Also heard of the 303/35 as well!


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Re: Cartridges based on the .303 British [Re: 93x64mm]
      #320464 - 08/10/18 10:40 AM

I once had a Westley Richards 1897 take down with one barrel in 450NE and the other in 6mm Musgrave.
The Musgrave was a nice shooting setup and I still think that some day I will have or build another.

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Re: Cartridges based on the .303 British [Re: DarylS]
      #320472 - 08/10/18 03:52 PM

Back in the day some great old wildcats on the 303 in Aussie & most people hunted with them unless wealthy, the .22 on the 303 case was the main Roo gun in many forms, all of these wildcats could really cook in the P14 Mauser action !

Daryl did you ever build a rifle in .40/60 Maynard, the was one of the calibers I was thinking years back for one if my Lee Speed projects before deciding on the .405Win, which later one of our members went ahead & built, using the brass I had got in to do mine .

I have a barrel from Canada in the rack off a Martini waiting still it is in .400 Express or Britsh, which is the .303 necked to .405 I broke the extractor fitting it to the Martini for testing but it will one day go on the Speeder !


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Re: Cartridges based on the .303 British [Re: lancaster]
      #320473 - 08/10/18 05:40 PM

There are 2 303/35's, different shoulder angles and one is blown out I think. Also there is the 303Epps. This is an Ackley style improved version and in a P14 action is a big step up in the velocity stakes.

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Re: Cartridges based on the .303 British [Re: Sarg]
      #320482 - 09/10/18 04:20 AM

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Back in the day some great old wildcats on the 303 in Aussie & most people hunted with them unless wealthy, the .22 on the 303 case was the main Roo gun in many forms, all of these wildcats could really cook in the P14 Mauser action !

Daryl did you ever build a rifle in .40/60 Maynard




I wanted one as well. I never got one assembled though. I do have a #3 and a #4 that would work, but the #4 is busy right now driving 174's at 2,960fps. It made a 1 1/2" group at 100 meters with those - just 3 shots. It was Ken Waters .312 Express. I did not know he'd done that at the time I cobbled mine together.

I also necked some .303's of various lengths down to hold .224" bullets, just because.

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Re: Cartridges based on the .303 British [Re: DarylS]
      #320627 - 14/10/18 06:30 AM

I have a 303/25 made up on a ruger number 1 with a heavy badger octagonal barrel . It's a tack driver.I use sierra 120 grain boat tails going ( from memory ) over 2900 fps
There is also a set of 303/270 dies sitting on the shelf .


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Re: Cartridges based on the .303 British [Re: sbs470]
      #321134 - 01/11/18 11:53 AM

I recall .22/303 (about three versions from full length to shortened), .243/303, 25/303, 270/303 & 7.7 x 54 (thanks 93x64).

Undoubtedly there were others. "Necessity being the mother of invention"...….and the father of halfcastes.

In the colonies, well at least Australia, they were cheap ex military SMLEs when commercial sporters weren't common/cheap. People made the most of what they had.

The action strength was the limiting factor as to performance, with the SMLEs, but I'd say you could make some of these cartridges really "cook" in a P14 or a Mauser.

I'd still have 25/303 dies and cases somewhere though I never had the rifle.

You could go along way with a sporterised .303 and not be found lacking. Bell found that out.


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