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Huvius
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Belgian “Quail Gun”
#315131 - 09/04/18 11:59 PM

Picked this little shotgun up at auction and am looking for help with working up loads.
It is a Belgian gun chambered in 10.7 mm which I take to be 44XL shot.
I have yet to do a chamber cast but I see a 303 and 38-40 cases drop in and it looks like headspace is good with either.
So, I’m looking for ideas of what to use as a base brass. Don’t have any 44mag brass and guess that would be the one to try.

When I say it is little, I mean it is TINY!!

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tinker
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Re: Belgian “Quail Gun” [Re: Huvius]
#315132 - 10/04/18 01:01 AM

I had one of these.
Miniature action for sure.

I'll look at my notes when I get home - but if I recall I'd been cutting .410 cases and roll crimping.
.444 cases might be right too.

Cheers
Tinker

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Huvius
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Re: Belgian “Quail Gun” [Re: tinker]
#315133 - 10/04/18 01:12 AM

Have just been reading online and looks like 44-40 brass is a good option.
There was also a roundball load for these as well.
One of these lined to a rook cartridge would sure be fun though.

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DarylS
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Re: Belgian “Quail Gun” [Re: Huvius]
#315135 - 10/04/18 01:46 AM

How long is the chamber?

I've used .444Marlin cases in my .410, loading 12gr. Unique, a thin card, then .410 plastic wad, cut off just a tich short of the mouth, then fill with shot - 1/2oz. then gas check cup -down on shot, then crimped in a .444 Seating die. A .44 mag seating die would also work, adjusted correctly.

The patterns were better than factory 3" or 2 1/2" which I usually used in it.

The same load or type of load might work just fine in a straightened and trimmed .303 or .30/40 case.

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Wayne59
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Re: Belgian “Quail Gun” [Re: DarylS]
#315142 - 10/04/18 05:12 AM

What a nice little gun.

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93x64mm
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Re: Belgian “Quail Gun” [Re: Wayne59]
#315144 - 10/04/18 07:34 AM

Huvius
try this!
I have an old H&R 410 marked .410 / 12mm, they can also fire the 44 XL shot case.

http://www.fourten.org.uk/mwpre410.html

Cheers
93x64mm

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ducmarc
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Re: Belgian “Quail Gun” [Re: 93x64mm]
#315222 - 13/04/18 11:21 AM

that would be hard on rats or sparrows. really cool

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Rule303
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Re: Belgian “Quail Gun” [Re: ducmarc]
#315247 - 13/04/18 05:17 PM

That is a neat little double.

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