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Ripp
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Why-308??? The-case-for-308-Winchester...
#308732 - 07/12/17 03:01 AM

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Re: Why-308??? The-case-for-308-Winchester... [Re: Ripp]
#308734 - 07/12/17 03:33 AM

We use the 308 on our hills regularly.

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Re: Why-308??? The-case-for-308-Winchester... [Re: tinker]
#308753 - 07/12/17 09:46 AM

I have to confess to a real soft spot for the 308. I have never done any match shooting but for hunting I think it handles most situations.The ones I come up against anyway. Hunted with a couple once where the husband used a 375 and his wife used a 308 because the husband thought she could not handle the recoil. She smoke two buffalo and a scrub bull with one shot kills while the husband did not put on the same type of display. Its a good balance all round like the story says.I am looking to build a light pack hunting rifle shortly and the 308 is pretty hard to go past.

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Re: Why-308??? The-case-for-308-Winchester... [Re: Claydog]
#308759 - 07/12/17 11:50 AM

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I have to confess to a real soft spot for the 308. I have never done any match shooting but for hunting I think it handles most situations.The ones I come up against anyway. Hunted with a couple once where the husband used a 375 and his wife used a 308 because the husband thought she could not handle the recoil. She smoke two buffalo and a scrub bull with one shot kills while the husband did not put on the same type of display. Its a good balance all round like the story says.I am looking to build a light pack hunting rifle shortly and the 308 is pretty hard to go past.

Agree---My wife uses a .308 for elk..smokes them every time shooting 165 gr accubonds..longer shots are no problem..I am not an accubond fan for faster calibers..but for those around the mv of 3000fps or less, it works well..

IMHO, there is something a bit magical about the .30 caliber when used on elk..knocks them hard and they stay down..seems like a perfect fit..

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Re: Why-308??? The-case-for-308-Winchester... [Re: Claydog]
#308768 - 07/12/17 03:51 PM

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I have to confess to a real soft spot for the 308. I have never done any match shooting but for hunting I think it handles most situations.The ones I come up against anyway. Hunted with a couple once where the husband used a 375 and his wife used a 308 because the husband thought she could not handle the recoil. She smoke two buffalo and a scrub bull with one shot kills while the husband did not put on the same type of display. Its a good balance all round like the story says.I am looking to build a light pack hunting rifle shortly and the 308 is pretty hard to go past.

C,

Interested in what shot she used for the one shot .308 kills. Heart shot or brain shot? Thanks.

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Re: Why-308??? The-case-for-308-Winchester... [Re: NitroX]
#308771 - 07/12/17 04:47 PM

I like my .308 in a Browning Lever Action. The Aussie's only alternative to the good old BAR. A good round for a short fast handling and shooting rifle. And a good rifle to have using 7.62 ammo for the zombie or other apocalypse!

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Re: Why-308??? The-case-for-308-Winchester... [Re: NitroX]
#308777 - 07/12/17 05:50 PM

Scrub bull was a neck/spine shot. Both buffalo were heart. Women shoot well as a general rule I have found. All the ones I have hunted with take all the time they need and if the set up is not perfect and they don't feel comfortable they won't shoot. They also seem to shoot exactly where you tell them to.

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Re: Why-308??? The-case-for-308-Winchester... [Re: Claydog]
#308778 - 07/12/17 06:17 PM

Still a very good hunting cartridge for sure.

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Re: Why-308??? The-case-for-308-Winchester... [Re: Rule303]
#308783 - 07/12/17 10:13 PM

I use a 308 with Woodleigh 180 grain Protected Points on Fallow deer which works perfectly. They never need more than one shot and normally drop on the spot without excessive meat damage.

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Re: Why-308??? The-case-for-308-Winchester... [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#308787 - 08/12/17 01:21 AM

I like the 308. I would not say it's my favorite 30, but it's in 2nd place.

I own 30 calibers in several rifles and I rate the 30-06 as #1 but the 308 as a close 2nd. I also own a 300 H&H and a 30-30. I have owned many others in the past, but sold them all. I have owned and used 300 Win Mag, 308 Norma mag, 300 Weatherby Mag, 30-378 Mag, 30-40 Krag, 7.5 Swiss and 300 Savage. I do miss the 30-40 a bit, but not the others.

I have found that if I have a need for more then the 308 or 30-06 gives me I need a LOT more, and not just a faster way to shoot the same bullet. I need more bullet, so I jump up to a 9.3 or a 375 if the 308 or 30-06 seem a bit light. I do love the old 300 H&H too but it's not the death ray that some think it is. I think of my 300 as a 30-06 with an extra 100 yards built in.
I can't tell ANY difference in performance between the 30-06 and the 308 with bullets from 150 to 180 grains on game. The 308 is about 100 FPS slower with the 180s, but so far I can't see any difference at all on game.
I shot the 308 (7.62X51 NATO) for 6 years in the Marine Corps with the M118 ammo and I got used to the trajectory, so I find that making hits with it is not difficult for me and the faster loads I use in the 30-06 and 300 are easier at guessed ranges, but if I have a known range the 308 is as easy to hit with as the 270 or the 300. (or the 30-378 when I had it)

MY 300 is dear to me not because it's a 300 as much as because it's a classic long barreled Mauser and just really a cool gun. Makes a larger diameter hole in elk at the same ranges as my 270 does,and the trajectory is nearly the same. But I have not killed as many animals with it as I have with my 30-06s or my 270s. Or my 308s now that I think of it.

I guess I like rifles more then I like calibers. But when I started slimming down the collection I kept the 308s more then I did a lot of other calibers. Overall I think the 308 and the 30-06 are the best 30s of the bunch.

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Re: Why-308??? The-case-for-308-Winchester... [Re: NitroX]
#308789 - 08/12/17 03:09 AM

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I like my .308 in a Browning Lever Action. The Aussie's only alternative to the good old BAR. A good round for a short fast handling and shooting rifle. And a good rifle to have using 7.62 ammo for the zombie or other apocalypse!

We have one of those here in the takedown configuration.
Super handy, accurate, really nice rifle.

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Re: Why-308??? The-case-for-308-Winchester... [Re: tinker]
#308796 - 08/12/17 07:47 AM

G'Day Fella's,

I think I only own four .308's, all sporting weight rifles.
A BSA Royal Featherweight, a Heym HR-38 (Ruger No 1), a Rem M700 (working/test rifle) and a Rem M600 custom lightweight (3 Kg's).

Need I say any more..................

Over the years, I have used a couple of different bullet weights in the .308 Win (mainly Rem 150grn C/Loc's and Speer 150 FN), but these days, I mainly use 130grn (Speer HP and Woodleigh PP SN) for most hunting and 180 Woodleigh's for larger Deer.

Claydog, if your interested, send me a PM and I can share the details of this M600 lightweight (from 1985), and how I would build one these days.

Avagreatweekendeh!
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