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Can’t hear it hit or even see it hit when shooting steel at 600 yards. Great only for shooting paper. 6.5 Grendel still the best AR15 based round.

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Hope the throats don't wear out before some good loads are worked up.

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Hope the throats don't wear out before some good loads are worked up.

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Daryl, it isn't a Weatherby or Nosler so a case only holding up to 35? grains of powder I don't think will burn to many throats.

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Have to agree... don't see that as in issue in this case..

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Change the name to .224 Creedmoor and they will sell like brownies in in Colorado.

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INDEED..and "brownies" in Colorado have unique flavors and qualities about them these days..

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It's just more reach and higher BC flight for the AR guys.
Nothing more than that.

At that it's cool for them, as long as the retailers are setting up with appropriate twist rates and the throat works with whatever bullets they're using.

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Agreed--which I am certain they will... they want/need to make sales..

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I am taking the "Wait and see" attitude with this one.

So far I have not seen anything that would cause me to want one yet. Yes it's faster then the 5.56 NATO, but so is the 22-250 (by quite a lot) so the fact that the "Valk" fits into an AR is the one thing that may make it grow in popularity. I do not know what the downrange addition of velocity it gives (not all that much as compared to a 22-250) is really going to gain over the NATO cartridge loaded with bullet up to 77 grains.
I do not argue that the heavier bullet at high velocity is going to beat the 556 at ALL ranges in a test of speed.

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Agree with Tinker on this one.. made for the competition fields more than varmints, etc.. correct, its chambered in AR's now by several manufacturers, not aware of any in the 22.250??..

Can see your hits and fast follow up..able to use heavy for caliber bullets so higher bc for the longer ranges 800+ yds.. all in an AR platform..

Long term who knows, but in the short time its been around, seems to be picking up a little steam.. Personally I like the 6mm Creedmoor..

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Agreed--which I am certain they will... they want/need to make sales..

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I hope they sell the hell out of them.
The more Americans we have exercising their skills in the wind at range the better off we are in the long run - for all the reasons, *hunting included*, if that gets more people out there trying then good for us all.

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Agreed--which I am certain they will... they want/need to make sales..

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I hope they sell the hell out of them.
The more Americans we have exercising their skills in the wind at range the better off we are in the long run - for all the reasons, *hunting included*, if that gets more people out there trying.

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If I keep agreeing with you people will think you ane I are up to something..
But, agree with the above--think its awesome, the more people are out there shooting the better off we all are..

PRS has gone crazy in the US the last few years..AND the manufacturers are responding with better products to fill the need ..all the way from gun manufacturers, scopes, stocks, bullets, electronics, etc... NOT that big of a deal anymore to be shooting 1000 yards..now its 1500, 2000 and beyond.. pretty cool..

Even in my neck of the woods..used to be 500 yards was about it for a range--I now know of several ranges an hour or less that go anywhere form 1000 to 2000..

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I just got a call from Colin Stolzer. He has a customer that has an Olympic arms AR in 22-250.
I looked it up and yup..........he's right.

The down side is they are using the old 1-14" twist, so this is not going to shoot the long heavy VLD type bullets, but I'd bet they could be talked into making one with a 1-8" twist.
So they were ahead of me on that.

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The .22-250 would easily work on an AR10 platform with long bullets of course, if one thought they needed a semi-auto.

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Again the point isn't to simply get something "into a semi auto" - the specific target audience is the folks who run the AR15
That's a huge audience, and a specific set of constraints.
The ability to knock out two pins and do a significant caliber swap is the feature to work around, this does it.

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I am taking the "Wait and see" attitude with this one.

So far I have not seen anything that would cause me to want one yet. Yes it's faster then the 5.56 NATO, but so is the 22-250 (by quite a lot) so the fact that the "Valk" fits into an AR is the one thing that may make it grow in popularity. I do not know what the downrange addition of velocity it gives (not all that much as compared to a 22-250) is really going to gain over the NATO cartridge loaded with bullet up to 77 grains.
I do not argue that the heavier bullet at high velocity is going to beat the 556 at ALL ranges in a test of speed.

But I have not found the "mission statement" where that speed would matter in real world shooting. To sales-pitch this as a new "long range hunting rifle" seems to pale in comparison to dozens of older far more powerful and well established shells available for decades.

Around the middle of Wyoming the AR with a standard 5.56 chamber is the King of Varmint Guns and those that want something faster have been the driving force to barrel (or re-barrel) 22-250 bolt actions in 1-8 twist or sometimes 1-7.

Shooting at ranges over 600 and out to 1200 is not something anyone seems to need or want semi-auto function for, at least around here.

Personally I think an AR type rifle in a 22-250 would be very cool, but there are no magazines available that will accommodate that much body taper for such rifles (yet)

The 224 Valkyrie may be a step in that direction. It doesn't meet the velocities of the 22-250, but it is faster then the 5.56 NATO

But only time will tell if this catches on or fizzles. For me personally, I'll save my money and let someone else do all the research and development on this one. This may be very cool later on, but not interesting enough to me to make me spend money on one yet.

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