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mckinney
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Rigby provenance
#306049 - 06/10/17 08:09 PM

I finally ordered Rigby certificates for the three rigby mausers I have, a .275, .350, and .416. The .275 was delivered to D B Crockart in 1935. The .350 was delivered to Manton & Co. in 1923. No indication whether England or India, but I assume the latter given the caliber. The .416 was delivered to "Capt T C Hallier" in 1920. There is a Capt F C Hallier who was apparently a British provincial commissioner in Africa or the Middle East about that time, but I can find no T C Hallier. Anyone have any idea? I suppose he could have been French or English.

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Ahmed577
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Re: Rigby provenance [Re: mckinney]
#306061 - 07/10/17 01:03 AM

By coincidence I also have 3 rigby rifles. A 416 built 1926, a 275 (7mil rigby magnum) built 1926, and a 350 built 1908. All in original fine condition. I am very pleased to own them.

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Re: Rigby provenance [Re: Ahmed577]
#306062 - 07/10/17 01:50 AM

My reprint of the Manton & Co. catalogue of 1925 (their Centenary year) list the .350 Magnum Rigby-Mauser on page 73, which I could photograph for you if you wish. The price including a case and cleaning implements was 950 rupees in India. At that time there were 15 rupees to one British Pound, making the price £63.333 pounds then, before purchase tax. Today that equates to £1500 or US$ 2,000 or so.

It was claimed to fire a 225 grain bullet at 2,600 fps.

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Re: Rigby provenance [Re: HistoricBore]
#306069 - 07/10/17 07:53 AM

Gentlemen.

This thread is worthless without pictures!

Please post pics of your Rigbys

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Re: Rigby provenance [Re: Rino]
#306082 - 07/10/17 03:56 PM

Quote:

The .416 was delivered to "Capt T C Hallier" in 1920. There is a Capt F C Hallier who was apparently a British provincial commissioner in Africa or the Middle East about that time, but I can find no T C Hallier. Anyone have any idea?

Old handwritten alphabets F and T are almost identical:

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Kiwi_bloke
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Re: Rigby provenance [Re: Igorrock]
#306083 - 07/10/17 04:54 PM

Captain Frank Hallier, District Officer at Moshi, Tanganyika / Tanzania in 1920's. Moshi is not far off Mt Kilimanjaro. Rigby country.

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Re: Rigby provenance [Re: Kiwi_bloke]
#306084 - 07/10/17 05:04 PM

Frank Collings Hallier.

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Re: Rigby provenance [Re: Kiwi_bloke]
#306085 - 07/10/17 05:08 PM

Frank Collings Hallier,
b. 23 Apr 1888, Grahamstown, Eastern Cape, South Africa
d. 27 Feb 1979, Port Alfred, Eastern Cape, South Africa (Age 90 years)

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HistoricBore
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Re: Rigby provenance [Re: Kiwi_bloke]
#306093 - 07/10/17 09:56 PM

Excellent family research, Kiwi bloke!

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Ahmed577
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Re: Rigby provenance [Re: HistoricBore]
#306094 - 07/10/17 10:08 PM

I am unable to post photos as much as I have tried. I seem to be able to send photos to other forums. I will keep trying.

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mckinney
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Re: Rigby provenance [Re: Kiwi_bloke]
#306098 - 07/10/17 11:32 PM

Outstanding work Kiwi bloke! Thanks very much guys. I will pick up the research from here and see where I get. Hoping to find some mention of the rifle and the Captain's exploits with it.

@Rino - I have the same issue as Ahmed577 posting photos. Also, need to take some better ones. Like most of my stuff, the rigbys are not pristine. The .275 has a slightly swept bolt handle which is less appealing than the straight ones. It may have been ordered that way, but no indication in the certificate. The .350 is an early SSB, but the bridge has been drilled for a scope mount (not present). The .416 is the most original of the lot, very early SSB mag action - unmolested. Bores on all three are good, but not excellent.

Edited by mckinney (07/10/17 11:36 PM)

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Kiwi_bloke
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Re: Rigby provenance [Re: mckinney]
#306106 - 08/10/17 07:15 AM

Hi McKinney

Frank Hallier raised the money to build the first tourist game lodge at Ngorongoro Crater in Tanzania. It looks like there will be a certain amount of information about him in publications around this and related subjects. There were only a few .416 Rigby's ever made in this era. I would imagine that most of their owners would have stories to tell.

The first owner of my Rigby shotgun wrote a book about being a doctor in India, which I got off Amazon. However several chapters are about his hunting exploits. He used a double-rifle to shoot a whole variety of big game, from deer to tiger. He even got invited by a Maharaja, (whose life he had saved more than once), to a world-famous duck-shoot in India. Ironically he admits he was rubbish with a shotgun!

So you never know what you will find if you follow these leads up.

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Re: Rigby provenance [Re: Ahmed577]
#307034 - 30/10/17 10:20 PM

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I am unable to post photos as much as I have tried. I seem to be able to send photos to other forums. I will keep trying.

mate, email me the photos. If you haven't already done so. If you have, I will look for them.

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