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ESP and the hunter
      #3002 - 27/05/03 03:12 PM

On another forum I related a story about some uncanny experiences I have had with feeling there is a leopard around and soon after having it confirmed.

So I ask the question - do you feel that sometimes a sense of ESP or other sensory awareness has aided you in your hunting, or are these all just co-incidences and pure luck?



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Re: ESP and the hunter [Re: NitroX]
      #3003 - 27/05/03 03:16 PM

This is the story I related elsewhere.

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I have hunted leopard by chance and I do believe there is a strange connection. When hunting eland I once got the feeling, there's a leopard around. 30 seconds later the tracker finds fairly fresh leopard tracks. The PH asked "Do you want a leopard?" I say "How much?" and then "Sure." We followed the tracks but in the rocks nothing came of it.

Another two times hunting hartebeest or just scouting I had the same feeling and again leopard tracks and a kill respectively were found. These were not so fresh. The tracks being 24 hours old and the kill older.

I will admit to twice having the feeling and nothing being found but 3 out of 5 aint bad.


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Re: ESP and the hunter [Re: NitroX]
      #3004 - 27/05/03 04:39 PM

John

You must realize the facts and trust yourself. The two times were nothing was found was just because of bad tracker work

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Re: ESP and the hunter [Re: NitroX]
      #3005 - 27/05/03 05:28 PM

John,

Though I have no experience with African game(until next April), I'm in my 33rd season as a bear hunter and, while I've taken numerous other North American species, I just know when a bear is about. Can't really explain it as it doesn't happen with the other species. I think a lot of it has to do with the experience I have with the bears and their habits but some days I just know...........it's strange......I just know when one is around and usually where he'll be. Even after taking numerous bear myself and watching many others taken by clients, the hair still stands up on the back of my neck when I get "that feeling".
Wouldn't trade it for anything. Good post.

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Re: ESP and the hunter [Re: ovis]
      #3006 - 27/05/03 07:50 PM

Ovis

Bear makes a lot of sense to me.

My feeling is that while man is the ultimate predator due to his intelligence he also was prey to many carnivores in the past of the species.

Similar to many prey species which seem to sense danger and flees even though no scent, noise or movement alerts the game.

Predators may give some people a similar feeling allowing increased alertness.

Much as I wish it would, I have never found any correlation of success with hunches (except where they were based on something tangible eg food plants, past sightings etc) with deer or similar game not matter how much I willed the game sought to be hiding in that thicket.

PS But I can pick which elevator or lift will be next 19 times out of 20



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Re: ESP and the hunter [Re: NitroX]
      #3008 - 27/05/03 10:56 PM

My post from AR:

I just got done reading Jim Corbett's books again for the "n"th time. He repeatedly stated that he knew when a tiger or leopard was close and stalking him.

Taylor, and others, also claimed that they knew when some unknown danger was imminent.

I have, unfortunatley, never experienced that. I could blindly walk up to the south end of a northbound elephant and never know it until the turds starting hitting me on the head.
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Last year we walked up within 10 or 15 feet of two sleeping lions and never knew it until what we thought we heard was the game scout giving birth to a cow. If it hadn't been for the scout...well, let's just say my ESP is very, very dormant.

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Re: ESP and the hunter [Re: NitroX]
      #3011 - 28/05/03 01:45 AM

NitroX

Some people have it and some don't.I think you are one of the lucky ones,it may save your life one day.Trust in it.

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Re: ESP and the hunter [Re: NitroX]
      #3012 - 28/05/03 05:33 AM

I believe in it, but as someone else stated here, you either have it or you don't. It's kind of like the feeling you get when you feel someone is looking at you and you turn around quickly and there they are.

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Re: ESP and the hunter [Re: Will]
      #3016 - 28/05/03 03:23 PM

Will

Corbett describes in one of his books, I think it was "My India" how he can move around the forests even at night when he knows there is a dangerous maneater present.

He mentions the "Jungle Folk". When I first read the book many years ago I did not know to whom he refered, but he refers to "Jungle Folk" as the numerous birds, monkeys and other animals that inhabit the forests and jungles. When a leopard or tiger moves through the forest he learned how to recognise the many different calls these "folk" made and so could judge if eg a tiger was moving awya and in what direction. Similarly when sitting in a machan the birds and beasts of the forest alerted him to its approach. Amazing stuff.

He may also have referred to a "sixth sense" type warning as well.

I am re-reading some of his books at the moment myself and if I find an example I will post it.


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Re: ESP and the hunter [Re: NitroX]
      #3036 - 29/05/03 11:41 AM

Nitro,

I don't recall having read nor have ever added up the number of man-eaters that he had killed.

Undoubtedly, Corbett was both lucky and good. As I sit here at my desk in a very sanitized and safe world, it never ceases to amaze me at the courage of some of the early hunters.

For every successful one, that published his adventures, there must be hundreds that only left a few bones in a cat's scat.

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