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HeymSR20
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Re: Rigby ".416 Bore for Big Game": last interesting acquisition [Re: HistoricBore]
      #297251 - 17/03/17 11:32 PM

Thats beautiful. Interesting to see the rear square bridge on a rifle that early.

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Re: Rigby ".416 Bore for Big Game": last interesting acquisition [Re: HeymSR20]
      #297255 - 18/03/17 01:38 AM

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Thats beautiful. Interesting to see the rear square bridge on a rifle that early.



It actually isn't at all.
All magnum length Mauser actions had a square rear bridge from the beginning, take a look at the original stepped ring 350s.

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Re: Rigby ".416 Bore for Big Game": last interesting acquisition [Re: Huvius]
      #297262 - 18/03/17 05:53 AM

Beyond stunning. That is what a rifle is suppose to look like. Sort of like a 1957 Corvette. They made them all worse from that moment when perfection was achieved.

I wish I could hunt effectively with open sights. It's the only detraction.

Congratulations, a piece of history.

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Re: Rigby ".416 Bore for Big Game": last interesting acquisition [Re: Rell]
      #297268 - 18/03/17 08:06 AM

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!
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Re: Rigby ".416 Bore for Big Game": last interesting acquisition [Re: HistoricBore]
      #297273 - 18/03/17 09:38 AM

Eagle27 mentioned the short standard length extractor. I have seen them on other long actions but it is unclear just how the extractor stays put on the starboard side of the bolt while the bolt rotates as normal.
How the heck can a std extractor work on a magnum bolt?!

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Re: Rigby ".416 Bore for Big Game": last interesting acquisition [Re: Huvius]
      #297275 - 18/03/17 10:19 AM

I don't know for sure, but I guess when the action is closed the front of the extractor is located in position by the receiver. As the action is opened and the bolt rotates, the front of the extractor is still held in position by the receiver.
Then as the bolt is withdrawn the front of the extractor doesn't clear the receiver until the rear end of the extractor has entered the bridge raceway.
Anyway I'm sure Joel or some of our other Mauser guys can tell us how it works.

A beautiful rifle by the way.

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Re: Rigby ".416 Bore for Big Game": last interesting acquisition [Re: 4seventy]
      #297283 - 18/03/17 12:42 PM

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I don't know for sure, but I guess when the action is closed the front of the extractor is located in position by the receiver. As the action is opened and the bolt rotates, the front of the extractor is still held in position by the receiver.
Then as the bolt is withdrawn the front of the extractor doesn't clear the receiver until the rear end of the extractor has entered the bridge raceway.
Anyway I'm sure Joel or some of our other Mauser guys can tell us how it works.

A beautiful rifle by the way.



Yes as Huvius observes I have asked a question (another one) re the extractor but over on AR Forums where a thread was started on the same rifle. It seems impossible from the photo that the bolt can rotate as the tail on the short extractor has been notched for the bolt guide which rotates to the top as the bolt handle is lifted to unlock the bolt. As you observe the extractor on a Mauser does not rotate with the bolt. Normally the extractor tail sits behind the rear of the guide rib allowing it to rotate under the extractor as the bolt is opened. The arrangement on the bolt in the photos looks very unusual and impossible to see how it would work. I can't imagine that the notched tail of the extractor springs over the guide rib? I have an original Oberndorf sporter Mauser so can see exactly how they work.

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Re: Rigby ".416 Bore for Big Game": last interesting acquisition [Re: eagle27]
      #297291 - 18/03/17 03:01 PM

Normally they notch the guide rib so the extractor tail can rotate, have a look at a Brevex. I've seen one with the rear of the guide rib removed, about .5" or so.
From the photos of this Rigby it's hard to see whats going on.

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Re: Rigby ".416 Bore for Big Game": last interesting acquisition [Re: metal]
      #297293 - 18/03/17 03:34 PM

Oh ok, I see what you guys are talking about now.
Yes, you would think that there would have to be a 'notch' cut out of the guide rib for it to work.
Perhaps it's just not visible in the photos.
It sure will be interesting to learn the answer.

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Re: Rigby ".416 Bore for Big Game": last interesting acquisition [Re: 4seventy]
      #297297 - 18/03/17 05:37 PM


About the extractor blade, read the rifle initial description: "The RIGBY was then entrusted to GASTINNE-RENETTE in Paris for a final revision before its storage. The Parisian gunsmith changed the extractor blade that had become too loose by adapting a BREVEX extractor. Perfectly executed, this unique alteration to the originality of the weapon does not hinder its absolutely perfect functioning."
Like on the BREVEX the rib has been carefully notched and the extraction and the controlled feeding are flawless.
Have a look at => http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post144859

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Re: Rigby ".416 Bore for Big Game": last interesting acquisition [Re: DORLEAC]
      #297299 - 18/03/17 07:53 PM

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About the extractor blade, read the rifle initial description: "The RIGBY was then entrusted to GASTINNE-RENETTE in Paris for a final revision before its storage. The Parisian gunsmith changed the extractor blade that had become too loose by adapting a BREVEX extractor. Perfectly executed, this unique alteration to the originality of the weapon does not hinder its absolutely perfect functioning."
Like on the BREVEX the rib has been carefully notched and the extraction and the controlled feeding are flawless.
Have a look at => http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post144859

DORLEAC
www.dorleac-dorleac.com



Ahaa, didn't read all that bit, was too busy looking at the rifle. I take it the long extractors are hard to come by? I think I read somewhere that someone had joined a couple of standard ones together to get a longer one, or maybe they were just inquiring to see if it would work. Could a loose extractor not be reset?

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Re: Rigby ".416 Bore for Big Game": last interesting acquisition [Re: DORLEAC]
      #297305 - 18/03/17 09:29 PM

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Like on the BREVEX the rib has been carefully notched and the extraction and the controlled feeding are flawless.
Have a look at => http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post144859

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Thankyou for that information Joel.
What a beautiful example of an original Rigby.
Thanks again for the great photos and description.

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