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Levallois
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Anybody win the Holland & Woodward pat- 22HP in RIA auction?
      #291496 - 06/12/16 06:31 AM

Went for $9500 and I thought it looked like a very interesting rifle. I hope someone here got it!

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Re: Anybody win the Holland & Woodward pat- 22HP in RIA auction? [Re: Levallois]
      #291498 - 06/12/16 06:46 AM

I was on the phone but knew it would go beyond what I wanted to pay for it.
Another special rifle completely misrepresented by R.I.

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Re: Anybody win the Holland & Woodward pat- 22HP in RIA auction? [Re: Huvius]
      #291504 - 06/12/16 07:31 AM

I dropped out at $7500 and that was way more than I wanted to pay for a "rook rifle."

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Re: Anybody win the Holland & Woodward pat- 22HP in RIA auction? [Re: Levallois]
      #291510 - 06/12/16 10:08 AM

Not a "rook rifle" at all. That is my point.

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Re: Anybody win the Holland & Woodward pat- 22HP in RIA auction? [Re: Huvius]
      #291512 - 06/12/16 11:24 AM

Yes I know. I didn't make my point very well.

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Re: Anybody win the Holland & Woodward pat- 22HP in RIA auction? [Re: Levallois]
      #291533 - 06/12/16 07:43 PM

do you have a link the rest of us knowing what you talking about

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Re: Anybody win the Holland & Woodward pat- 22HP in RIA auction? [Re: lancaster]
      #291540 - 06/12/16 11:46 PM

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/69/3611#detail

According to Mr Kirton's book this was the last Holland and Woodward patent rifle made. Purchased in 1926 by Elton Clark who was a wealthy cotton broker from Boston who hunted in Africa prior to WWI, was in the Red Cross in France during WWI, and hunted bear in Alaska and even had one species names after him. Unclear what Mr Clark hunted with this one but Most definitely NOT a rook rifle.

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Re: Anybody win the Holland & Woodward pat- 22HP in RIA auction? [Re: Levallois]
      #291544 - 07/12/16 12:28 AM

When I had the auction on the phone, the man told me that there were no British proofs on the barrel.
I thought that odd as H&H wasn't a stranger to the 22 Savage HiPower so I am not sure if H&H did the rebarrel or if it was done in the US (or if it was originally chambered in 22HP for that matter).
Still, good to see it go for real money so maybe the market on single shots is picking up again.

I passed on another a few weeks ago on GunBroker that had been rebored to 444 Marlin - a known gun too - thinking I had a shot at this 22HP. Didn't work out obviously and the 444 sold for $4500 which I guess was a decent price for the buyer. Ultimately, it sold for about the same (less with commission) as it did at Holt's auction back in 2009 (iirc). It did have some issues though.

The best one I have seen lately sold a couple months ago by a Cabela's. It was a 303 and very nice. Went for about $9 or 10K.


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Re: Anybody win the Holland & Woodward pat- 22HP in RIA auction? [Re: Huvius]
      #291551 - 07/12/16 08:18 AM

Huvius - beautiful rifle.

The original record has the H&H sold by RIA as a 22HP according to table in Kirton page 259 but I guess it could have been rebarreled in same caliber. I think it was described as refinished too so I thought it might go for less. Man, was I wrong. Lots to learn about the single shots.

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