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gryphon
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Yes or no?
#288034 - 19/09/16 06:19 PM

Personally i like metal engraving but I am yet to see great wood carving on a stock.

http://joecummingsstudio.com/Gunstock_Carving_by_Joe_Cummings.html

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: gryphon]
#288037 - 19/09/16 06:59 PM

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: LesLeeSpeed]
#288043 - 20/09/16 12:58 AM

No...

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: Ripp]
#288044 - 20/09/16 01:11 AM

No!

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szihn
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Re: Yes or no? [Re: aromakr]
#288045 - 20/09/16 01:29 AM

I like relief carving on stocks, but on muzzleloaders.

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: szihn]
#288050 - 20/09/16 06:29 AM

I appreciate the artwork and skill that goes into it, but stock carving does not appeal to me.

Had a Weatherby Lazermark once. I do know that the Weatherby is not real wood carving, being done by a laser and all but I found it all just a bit gaudy and it was fragile. One of the oak leaf bits broke off the first time out in the bush. Sold the rifle. It was too over the top for me. Odd that I don't feel that way about tastefully done metal engraving on a rifle

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: Postman]
#288053 - 20/09/16 07:06 AM

To me I guess it depends on the calibre & what you are trying to emulate.
I do however like the leaves & acorns done in the Germanic style on the butt etc, but only in small amounts & in say a 7x64mm - it just wouldn't go with a .270!
Just being me I guess.
Otherwise it would be a boring world!
I really appreciated the art work on the stocks, beautifully done - just not my style.
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Rule303
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Re: Yes or no? [Re: gryphon]
#288058 - 20/09/16 07:46 AM

No.

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Homer
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Re: Yes or no? [Re: Rule303]
#288060 - 20/09/16 09:08 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Some of the wood carving I've seen on European hunting rifles, looks right at home to me.
So, when it is done discreetly and not over done, I'll say Yes.

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: Homer]
#288076 - 20/09/16 05:51 PM

No.

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375Brno
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Re: Yes or no? [Re: Mike_Bailey]
#288077 - 20/09/16 06:41 PM

Never

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: 375Brno]
#288078 - 20/09/16 07:03 PM

I'm with szihn on this, M/Ls sure, but not otherwise.

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BB416
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Re: Yes or no? [Re: lonewulf]
#288079 - 20/09/16 07:16 PM

While I appreciate the work , time and effort and yes in itself the carvings are beautiful . But not for me , not on my firearms thanks...

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: BB416]
#288084 - 20/09/16 08:32 PM

I can't remember who it is, but someone I know absolutely loves his modern rifle with carving and thinks it is absolutely spectacular due to the carving.

Myself on a modern rifle, I generally do not like it. Beautiful wood grain and shape of the stock is all that is needed plus practical checkering. Of course palm cheek rests with a border, and may some inleting etc.

On some firearms of particular styles the engraving is quite apt.

As Steve says, and I thought this from looking at the photos before reading his comment, on period design muzzle loaders and similar firearms suitable carving can be quite acceptable and in keeping with the class of the firearm.

Some of the muzzle loaders in the photos look quite right.

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: NitroX]
#288108 - 21/09/16 12:58 AM

There is carving that is pleasing to the eye, and there is this modern junk - in my own opinion, of course.

This is incised carving of about 1810 era:

Here is some relieve carving of the mid to late 18th century period.

Carving with Inlays - late 18th century, fit for a king.

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: DarylS]
#288110 - 21/09/16 01:05 AM

Certainly looks right on those muzzle loaders.

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: NitroX]
#288115 - 21/09/16 01:56 AM

Usually I don't like stock carving either. Most of that whittling, especially American artwork, is tasteless and just plain ugly. But I learned to live with the carving done to my Czech, Lovena Prag, 1960s double rifle drilling in 2x 7x57R above 16.

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gryphon
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Re: Yes or no? [Re: kuduae]
#288128 - 21/09/16 05:00 AM

D I equate a couple of your pics with Line Dancing ha ha.

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: kuduae]
#288139 - 21/09/16 06:58 AM

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Usually I don't like stock carving either. Most of that whittling, especially American artwork, is tasteless and just plain ugly. But I learned to live with the carving done to my Czech, Lovena Prag, 1960s double rifle drilling in 2x 7x57R above 16.

Kuduae I like your drilling!

Exactly along the lines I was thinking!
Stock carvings (& Engraving) have to be done in the right context, akin to virtually scrimshaw work on say a muzzle loader.
The silver inlays shown by Daryl are WAY over the top - beautiful work, just not my style!
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HistoricBore
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Re: Yes or no? [Re: 93x64mm]
#288190 - 22/09/16 07:21 AM

NO, but the older examples are rather fun...

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Re: Yes or no? [Re: HistoricBore]
#288302 - 24/09/16 01:42 PM

It's OK:
On muzzle loaders (longrifles) when done as period correct style.
On Schuetzen rifles it looks OK,,I'm used to seeing it there.
On modern rifles and shotguns only as small accent bas-relief carvings to the leaves of the fleur-de-lis or other small leaf engagements on the borders of the checkering pattern.

I don't care for the heavy carving of animals, woodland scenes and the like on a firearm in place of checkering or on the sides of the butt stock,
However I do appreciate the work itself. Some is beautifully done and a piece of art in itself.

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