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AbitNutz
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Odd gun in an odd movie
#284615 - 28/06/16 12:03 PM

There was a movie called "Ghost and the Darkness". This isn't a movie review...One of the characters was sporting a howdah pistol that was an over/under but with side by side exposed hammers and dual fore and aft triggers. I'm thinking this was just a movie prop but did anyone ever make an over/under rifle with side by side hammers? I have to admit, while not as pretty as a fine English double rifle, it was uniquely attractive.

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Re: Odd gun in an odd movie [Re: AbitNutz]
#284618 - 28/06/16 12:32 PM

4-barrel Howdah S/S & O/U - 2 hammers and 2 internal strikers chambered in .577 Snider was featured in a G&A magazine back in the 60's. I remember reading that article over and over with photos and drawings to stir the hunting soul of a lad who was supposed to be studying - well, I was - just not school work.

I am trying to remember the maker's name - but alas, cannot bring my self to recall the script under the photo of the pistol at this time.

There was also an o/u with side by side hammers, under lever/ The left hammer had a long projection to hit the slanted firing pin from the bottom barrel - again, a .577 Snider.

That is what & how I remember these guns - hope they were real and it wasn't simply an elaborate dream! LOL

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Mauser416
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Re: Odd gun in an odd movie [Re: DarylS]
#284620 - 28/06/16 12:41 PM

http://www.imfdb.org the Internet Movie Firearms Database has info on the gun. According to them, it appears the howdah used by Michael Douglas (Remington) was made by one of the armorers.

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AbitNutz
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Re: Odd gun in an odd movie [Re: Mauser416]
#284638 - 28/06/16 06:41 PM

It looks like the ones I've heard about are all muzzle loaders...is there anyway a cartridge O/U side hammer could work? I guess it could. The Sharps certainly does make use of an angled firing pin.

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Waidmannsheil
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Re: Odd gun in an odd movie [Re: AbitNutz]
#284673 - 29/06/16 06:52 AM

European gunmakers have made U/O rifles with SxS hammers in the past. I have some pictures somewhere of one made a few years back by the Austrian gunmaker Streitmeier.

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TH44
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Re: Odd gun in an odd movie [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#284678 - 29/06/16 08:29 AM

This is my O/U Howdah"???? pistol (Pic from another thread), with a side by side

My Constinne Renette O/U percussion rifle posted in the Muzzleloaders forum

I have seen a couple of better quality O/U Traveller's pistols with one extended hammer to reach a nipple on the lower barrel. I believe this was the style of the movie pistol

All percussion "Howdah" pistols were actually "Travellers" "Saddle" or "Horse" pistols (see W W Greener "The Gun etc"), dealers and auction houses promoting the naming to increase prices. I have 6 DB pistols

Cartridge pistols in .577 Snider and 20 bore were a different matter, not practical in Hammer O/U??? (comments please)

The Lancaster 4 barrel .455 was a different concept

TH44

Edited by TH44 (29/06/16 08:32 AM)

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