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Vladymere
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Early Sporterized Military Mauser, Kar. 71
      #279394 - 16/03/16 10:35 AM

I know that this rifle will not be everybody’s cup of tea and though not made by Mauser this is a Mauser designed rifle. The rifle is a sporterized, all numbers matching,Steyer manufactured Kar. 71 (model 1871 Karibiner) in its original 11.15x60R mm made in 1876 and issued in 1877 and unknown as to when sporterized. I do wonder if this was not perhaps a “catalog” gun found in
Akah or similar.

The stock is the original military stock that has had the forearm shortened, a pistol grip inlet into the wrist and the rear sling and buttplate tang inletting filled.

The original rear sight was removed and a single standing leaf fixed rear sight dove tailed into the barrel nock’s form.

The trigger assembly has been replaced with a double set trigger in a shotgun bow style trigger guard.

I have replaced the original badly mouse chewed, worm eaten horn butt plate with a hard rubber butt plate that closely resembles the original in design.

The barrel retains its original length and front sight, has a fine crown and retains sharp lands and grooves.

Following are photos of this “guild” or “trade” rifle.

Vlad

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Joshua
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Re: Early Sporterized Military Mauser, Kar. 71 [Re: Vladymere]
      #279395 - 16/03/16 10:58 AM

Where are you from? I am in statesville nc, and would be most interested in seeing that rifle in person. Feel free to pm me if you like, and nice rifle btw

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Carpetsahib
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Re: Early Sporterized Military Mauser, Kar. 71 [Re: Joshua]
      #279396 - 16/03/16 11:19 AM

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Where are you from? I am in statesville nc, and would be most interested in seeing that rifle in person. Feel free to pm me if you like, and nice rifle btw

There are several of us in NC. I'm in Burnsville, in Western NC. We could almost have our own NC Forum! And I agree that that is a nice rifle.

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Vladymere
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Re: Early Sporterized Military Mauser, Kar. 71 [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #279401 - 16/03/16 01:29 PM

I'm in Charlotte fellows.

Vlad

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DarylS
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Re: Early Sporterized Military Mauser, Kar. 71 [Re: Vladymere]
      #279402 - 16/03/16 02:03 PM

That's in interesting sporterization of the military model 1871 rifle. My Model 1871 simply has the forend bobbed and rounded out in front of the barrel band.






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D_the_D
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Re: Early Sporterized Military Mauser, Kar. 71 [Re: DarylS]
      #281024 - 16/04/16 01:47 PM

Very nice gentlemen. A lot of work went into Vladymere's. Dayrly's is more my speed and almost identical to my brother's M71.
I've been wondering what to do with a M71/84 Police Carbine I have. It's just a cut down rifle from S. America or I'd never consider doing anything to it. Looks like they used a cutoff saw and just hacked it off fully assembled, then cut a dovetail for a simple blade site. The stock is almost black and looks like it was beat against gravel.
But it is a functional repeater with a good bore. Getting some ideas from you guys. Those should be great for Black Bear in NC. Oh my! Then my 9.3x57 might get thrown in the back of the safe.

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Re: Early Sporterized Military Mauser, Kar. 71 [Re: D_the_D]
      #281027 - 16/04/16 04:45 PM

please make some pics so we get a better understanding how it looks now

you can copy the old mauser hunting rifles with 71/84 action
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=232973&an=0&page=0#Post232973

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Edited by lancaster (16/04/16 05:15 PM)

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sharps4590
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Re: Early Sporterized Military Mauser, Kar. 71 [Re: lancaster]
      #281031 - 16/04/16 08:08 PM

Ordinarily that wouldn't be my "cup of tea" as you mentioned but, I rather like that one. Someone did a good job using what they had to work with. Kudo's! My only experience with the 11.15 X 60R is in an E Goldmann double rifle on a Lefaucheux action and I do like the cartridge.

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John303
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Re: Early Sporterized Military Mauser, Kar. 71 [Re: sharps4590]
      #281039 - 17/04/16 12:02 AM

All nice rifles, I am more 98 oriented but by mistake I bought a 71-84 and now have "several" in various states of cut down. Should take a group photo / two - will someone volunteer to post it here? the fit, finish, etc on these military guns is really astonishing. All take care --- John

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DarylS
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Re: Early Sporterized Military Mauser, Kar. 71 [Re: John303]
      #281048 - 17/04/16 03:51 AM

Nice thing about the 71/84, is the .446" groove diameter, compared to my 1876 version, with the .457" groove.

A .43 Mauser chamber will not normally allow larger than a .446" bullet to be seated in a case.

That is why I re-chambered mine to .450 Alaskan, just so I could shoot it. Mind you, a paper patched very soft bullet might have expanded enough with black powder, to shoot decently, or not as they were originally designed.

I am assuming not sufficient enough in the accuracy department as a reason they went with the tighter groove diameter of .446". Both versions have a .437" to .438" bore diameter.

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