Gundog01
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I am trying to find more information about the mauser and the 400/350. It's history, developement, users, performance as well as first hand experience. Tha on,y thing I can find is that Rigby originaly contracted mauser to make their mahnum length actions and that it is often mistaken for .350 Rigby magnum. Thank you gentlemen.
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Huvius
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Gundog, you are right on the two points you mention. Rigby did in fact commission Mauser to produce the first magnum length actions for the 400/350 rimmed cartridge. These actions had a bit of a slanted magazine which tapered toward the front for the rimmed cartridges and had what is widely referred to as a "step ring" magnum action. The step is a reduction in the diameter of the receiver ring where the barrel threads in. I don't know why they did that though. The 400/350 used a bullet of 310grs and the 400/350No.2 which had the exact same case used a pointed bullet of 215grs at a higher velocity.
The later 350 Rigby Magnum rimless cartridge was, I believe, only offered with a magnum length action with the fully cylindrical receiver ring.
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I'm always talking about how 'pretty' the .350 magnum cartridge is, but the 400/350 if anything is even prettier. I believe John Taylor, who loved the magnum, also said he preferred the 400/350 because of its heavier bullet. If I'm not mistaken, the 400/350 was the first cartridge offered by Rigby for the magnum action, around 1899-1900. Original Rigbys in 400/350 seem to me to be much rarer than the .350 magnum but are priced about the same.
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Gundog01
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Gundog, you are right on the two points you mention. Rigby did in fact commission Mauser to produce the first magnum length actions for the 400/350 rimmed cartridge. These actions had a bit of a slanted magazine which tapered toward the front for the rimmed cartridges and had what is widely referred to as a "step ring" magnum action. The step is a reduction in the diameter of the receiver ring where the barrel threads in. I don't know why they did that though. The 400/350 used a bullet of 310grs and the 400/350No.2 which had the exact same case used a pointed bullet of 215grs at a higher velocity.
The later 350 Rigby Magnum rimless cartridge was, I believe, only offered with a magnum length action with the fully cylindrical receiver ring.
Thank you for your response,
Can the 400/350no.2 be and 350Rigby magnum be fired out of a Rigby chambered for the original 400/350?
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Huvius
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Yes and no. The No.2 can as it is the same case but the 350 Magnum is an entirely different case. Rimless for one thing but also a different shape.
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 .350No2 400-350 .350 Rigby Magnum (and 30-06 for comparison)
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This is a Rigby Mauser 400/350 action:

I was told that the stepped receiver ring was intended to allow scopes mounted with German claw mounts to be mounted lower, which would require the extra clearance when they were tilted forward to be mounted or dismounted. I don't know why that would be an issue with a rifle intended for use in England, but it is the only logical explanation I have ever heard.
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I would like to be able to have a double built in the 400/350 calibre but can not afford it. I am however having a Remington made M17 converted to the 350Rigby Magnum. I hope to have this before Christmas.
if you find any info or articles on the 400/350 please post them here.
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Gundog01
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I'm always talking about how 'pretty' the .350 magnum cartridge is, but the 400/350 if anything is even prettier. I believe John Taylor, who loved the magnum, also said he preferred the 400/350 because of its heavier bullet. If I'm not mistaken, the 400/350 was the first cartridge offered by Rigby for the magnum action, around 1899-1900. Original Rigbys in 400/350 seem to me to be much rarer than the .350 magnum but are priced about the same.
Thank you, anyone you know in the US that sells/loads the 400/350no.2?
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pjaln
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gundog ,,,there are pics of a few on this site ,including mine ...search it it was a few years ago if i recall...paul
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The 400/350 is considered to be the first of the magnum length Mausers and was built for Rigby, who had exclusive import rights for Mauser actions. It was, and still is, a great round but was over shadowed when Holland introduced it's 375.


This one is a rifle gunmaker Lon Paul brought up on a spring Brown bear hunt with me on the Alaska peninsula
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Gundog01
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The 400/350 is considered to be the first of the magnum length Mausers and was built for Rigby, who had exclusive import rights for Mauser actions. It was, and still is, a great round but was over shadowed when Holland introduced it's 375.


This one is a rifle gunmaker Lon Paul brought up on a spring Brown bear hunt with me on the Alaska peninsula
Sir,
Where did you get ammo? I need to find some!
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That is a very nice round. Quite similar to my .375 Wildcat and the 400/350 would make a very nice 9.3 or .375 as well.
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Gundog01
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The 400/350 is considered to be the first of the magnum length Mausers and was built for Rigby, who had exclusive import rights for Mauser actions. It was, and still is, a great round but was over shadowed when Holland introduced it's 375.


This one is a rifle gunmaker Lon Paul brought up on a spring Brown bear hunt with me on the Alaska peninsula
Sir,
Where did you get ammo? I need to find some!
Sir,
Also where did you get the sling? It's very nice.
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Looks like a sling Westley Richards used to sell.
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Hello Gundog01,
PM sent.
regards Rolf
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458Win
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I think Trader Keith still sells those slings
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Rule303
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The 400/350 is considered to be the first of the magnum length Mausers and was built for Rigby, who had exclusive import rights for Mauser actions. It was, and still is, a great round but was over shadowed when Holland introduced it's 375.


This one is a rifle gunmaker Lon Paul brought up on a spring Brown bear hunt with me on the Alaska peninsula
Sir,
Where did you get ammo? I need to find some!
Bertram in Aust make the brass and it is expensive. I know as I bought some from Bruce.
If anybody knows anybody else who makes 350Rigby magnum brass could kindly tell me who.
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I'm always talking about how 'pretty' the .350 magnum cartridge is, but the 400/350 if anything is even prettier. I believe John Taylor, who loved the magnum, also said he preferred the 400/350 because of its heavier bullet. If I'm not mistaken, the 400/350 was the first cartridge offered by Rigby for the magnum action, around 1899-1900. Original Rigbys in 400/350 seem to me to be much rarer than the .350 magnum but are priced about the same.
Thank you, anyone you know in the US that sells/loads the 400/350no.2?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=524843543
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Gundog01
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Anyone sell 350no.2 bullets?
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Huvius
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Anyone sell 350no.2 bullets?
Cal Pappas got his 350No.2 to shoot really well! Send him a message.
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showprofile.php?Cat=0&User=13864&page=1&what=showmembers
Any .358" bulet in the 200-225gr range will work fine.
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/928?
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I have a step ring 350 Rigby. The ring is engraved with "350 Magnum Rigby Mauser".
What is engraved on the receiver ring for .350 Rigby No 2 and 400-350 Rigby?
-------------------- Jim
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dons
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My 1908 SSB Magnum, slant box, step ring 400/350 had nothing engraved on the receiver ring.
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Gundog01
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Mine also does not have anything engraved on the reciver ring.
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