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OahuKaneohe
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Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892
      #270677 - 19/09/15 06:23 AM

Here are some photos of my new to me H & H 450 3 1/4" BPE made in delivered on Dec. 22, 1892 to Lord John Manners. Pics from the seller site.

The build sheet:



Cheek piece:



Right side:



Extended top strap;





Side lock:





Cased:



the locks:



Under lever:



Block Patent Safety:




Edited by CptCurl (29/03/16 09:19 AM)

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: OahuKaneohe]
      #270680 - 19/09/15 08:08 AM


Thanks for sharing.

I have been looking on that rifle for quit awhile on Morris Hallowells page.

Congratulations for another fine speciem to go along with your H&H .500 3,25"...

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: rigbymauser]
      #270687 - 19/09/15 12:34 PM

Love it! Congratulations and thanks for sharing.

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: CptCurl]
      #270690 - 19/09/15 12:43 PM

Isn't that loverly!

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: DarylS]
      #270709 - 19/09/15 10:17 PM

What a beautiful rifle!
I'm green... again...

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: Huvius]
      #270716 - 20/09/15 02:21 AM

Beautiful!

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: Matabele]
      #271556 - 09/10/15 12:13 PM

First 4 shots out of her, held center and hit high, next three held on the quarter, all touching on the X.



Top of standing breech, the bouquet of roses?



Left side plate:



Tail end of left side plate:



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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: OahuKaneohe]
      #271557 - 09/10/15 12:39 PM

Mr. Froome knew his work.

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: MikeRowe]
      #271562 - 09/10/15 10:42 PM

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Robert

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #271565 - 10/10/15 01:33 AM

I'd say that your load development on that one is done!
Surely what you really want is a couple Brit falling blocks instead of that old Holland, right?

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: Huvius]
      #271585 - 10/10/15 10:36 AM

To echo Bwanabob - WOW!!

That is better than I can shoot with a .22RF target rifle!!

A very interesting best quality rifle on the cusp of H&H's new factory manufacture from the previous W&C Scott/Philip Webley guns/rifles

It has Scott's intercepting sear safety and the Jones' underlever, used for the added strength in rifles at the time, less common in later hammerless rifles

The epitome of the Rose and Scroll engraving (my personal favourite) before the later foliate style, although almost a transition between the two styles

Although I prefer Hammer Rifles I could certainly make an exception in this case!!!!

I echo other's thanks for posting such a great rifle

TH44

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: TH44]
      #271586 - 10/10/15 12:10 PM

TH44
Amen , I have a Holland and Holland .500 BPE with hammers , and it shoots pretty good (2inch group , right over the sights at 50 yards) but nothing like this .450 !!!!!!
Robert
Again "WOW"

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: bwanabobftw]
      #271883 - 20/10/15 07:57 AM

TH44, here is a pic of my H & H 500 BPE made in 1898, is this the later style of engraving you
referred to ?







For more info on this 500 BPE, see my other posts here.

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: OahuKaneohe]
      #271884 - 20/10/15 08:13 AM

Here is the Weapon History Document I recently received from the maker.

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: OahuKaneohe]
      #271886 - 20/10/15 09:52 AM

Delightful indeed.

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: DarylS]
      #271887 - 20/10/15 10:26 AM

Very very nice

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: OahuKaneohe]
      #271888 - 20/10/15 10:34 AM

OahuKaneohe - That most excellent rifle is best quality with the later H&H bold foliate. engraving certainly made in the new H&H factory.
I believe there were various options available, especially on the "Royal" grade


I believe this is the later Bold foliate engraving


This is the earleir foliate engraving which I referred to


Rose and scroll

Take your pick for personal preference, all are excellent

Pics thanks to "Holland & Holland, The Royal Gunmaker" by Donald Dallas

TH44

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: TH44]
      #271891 - 20/10/15 11:01 AM

If I remember correctly, Harry Manners was a well known Professional Hunter who wrote several books about his exploits. http://www.brooke-africa.com/BOOK%20REVIEWS/book-reviews-manners.html

I suspect Lord John may have been his father,

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: xausa]
      #271893 - 20/10/15 01:19 PM

The 450 was made for Lord John Manners, 7th Duke of Rutland who was born, raised and died at
Belvoir Castle in 1906. The Castle is intact to this day. See the pics and read the history of the Castle and the Dukes of Rutland. Lord John Manners was the Head of the House of Lords in 1890s England. A Duchess of Rutland lives there today.

http://www.belvoircastle.com/

Belvoir Castle is the ancestral home of the Dukes of Rutland. The family have lived at Belvoir in an unbroken line for almost a thousand years. Crowning a hill in Leicestershire, its turrets and towers rise over the Vale of Belvoir like an illustration in a romantic fairytale.

The land was a gift from William the Conqueror to one of his Norman barons – Robert de Todeni who fought for him as his Standard Bearer at the Battle of Hastings in 1066.

I am just a custodian of this wood and metal piece of history...for now.

The Holland 500 BPE was made for:

Rajah V. Venkatakristna Yachendra Bahadur - 5th Brother of the Rajah of Venkatagiri K.C.I.E.

as inscribed on the barrels.

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: OahuKaneohe]
      #271923 - 22/10/15 12:09 AM

Thank you for sharing your .450 H&H. There is nothing like a H&H expressrifle from the golden era...Even though I have one to see yours still makes me soft at heart.

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Re: Holland & Holland 450 BPE, born 1892 [Re: rigbymauser]
      #271926 - 22/10/15 01:38 AM

That was an interesting link, Oahu K

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