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Northman
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Rigby rifle without open sights?
      #269152 - 11/08/15 10:57 PM

Did Rigby ever make rifles without open sights?

Perhaps in the era of scopes, they did not include it at owners behalf?
Or, is the rifle I am looking at, rebarreld?

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: Northman]
      #269163 - 12/08/15 12:13 AM

Quote:

Did Rigby ever make rifles without open sights?

Perhaps in the era of scopes, they did not include it at owners behalf?
Or, is the rifle I am looking at, rebarreld?



If we talk about an original pre-war period rifle I doubt you would ever find one without open sights.

Whatever you are looking I wouldn´t know. What are you looking at?.

Edited by rigbymauser (12/08/15 12:14 AM)

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: rigbymauser]
      #269165 - 12/08/15 12:35 AM

There was at least one in 7x57 Caliber post war (in the Roberts era IIRC).

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: justcurious]
      #269229 - 13/08/15 06:16 PM

Talked to the store who has it.

It has serial number in the 1xxx, so its an old Rigby, but probably restocked in the 60/70s. No clue why the barrel has no sights on it.. maybe barrel was shot out/pitted, and rebarreld at the same time as the new stock was put on?

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: Northman]
      #269233 - 13/08/15 11:34 PM

In the 1980s - 90s, Paul Roberts era, Rigby often built their "new" rifles on old,reclaimed actions. If the action came from an old Rigby rifle they retained the original serial number. Their basic .275 = 7x57 stalking rifles then came without open sights, but with Redfield type, non-detachable scope Mounts and often Monte Carlo type buttstocks. IMHO you may be looking at such a rifle. Here is a 1989 Rigby price sheet showing these features:

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: kuduae]
      #269234 - 14/08/15 12:52 AM

Here is the rifle:

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: Northman]
      #269235 - 14/08/15 01:45 AM

It may be such a "Rigby" from the 1980s. I have an old promotional Rigby video, "Classic Deer Stalking, Vol.4, Trophy Heads" from the same time. It features such a "modern Rigby" rifle without open sights, used by Paul Roberts and others on all kinds of British deer species. I don't know how to extract a decent photo from that video tape.

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: Northman]
      #269236 - 14/08/15 01:46 AM

I would run a check on Rigbys records. I agree the stock is from the Boogie age but somehow it all looks a little "odd"...

Contact Rigby in London before throwing money after this gun.

BTW: I can see the scopemount is a Redfield JR one-piece. I had one on a Winch 70XTR once.

Edited by rigbymauser (14/08/15 01:49 AM)

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: rigbymauser]
      #269237 - 14/08/15 01:51 AM

The store did contact Rigby.. they said it indeed was a Rigby rifle, but seems to have been restocked. Probably in the Roberts era. Serial # 12xx, would implie a very early example.. does not look so now..

Will recive better photos in a few days.


Rifle was purchased in Denmark in a auction several years ago.

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: Northman]
      #269238 - 14/08/15 01:58 AM


Typical rifle from the Paul Roberts era…
Alas too many fine rifles of the past have been butchered and “modernized” in the eighties.

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: DORLEAC]
      #269239 - 14/08/15 03:01 AM

Dorleac: How would you rate these? Considering they are "ruined" as a classical Rigby, but still a very good hunting rifle!?


If I where to purchase this, I was very much considering sending it to you, as I have seen your company has alot of experience with Rigbys.

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: Northman]
      #269241 - 14/08/15 04:56 AM

During that period there were many RIGBY on the market, most pre-war or even from the beginning of the century and it is unfortunate that they have been modified to offer upgraded versions to sportsmen.
In my point of view it would have been better to save these witness of the craftsmanship of the past and to produce from scratch new versions as is now done by the new RIGBY firm.
However, they are good hunting rifles, reliable and certainly accurate, but they wrongfully bear a name that does not match what they really are.

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: DORLEAC]
      #269242 - 14/08/15 07:15 AM

During the 1950s - 70s the British guntrade was in very hard times. Less than a year ago, at the Kassel gunshow, I refused to buy a M98 rifle inscribed "Rigby .275 High Velocity" in the traditional style for a paltry Euro 800.-. Apart from the name and serial number the thing smelled a lot like "Ferlach". Stock of simple walnut with a foreend longer than the classic Rigby, ex-military 98k action, continental style rear sight, funny flat bolt handle. Disregarding the "Rigby" marking, it's value as a post-war 7x57 rifle would be about Euro 200.- here at best.
But I have seen two "Holland & Holland" abominations from the same time as well, both in .375 H&H Magnum. One on a P14 Enfield Action, the other on an opened up ex-98k sniper action, the plugged holes of the former long side mount still visible. Both with Roell type light alloy bottom metal. Both with rather plain walnut stocks, with a finish I can do better. But the best: on both rifles the checkering was cut lopsided, asymmetrical! The only feature that resembled pre-war or now Holland & Holland rifles was the barrel profile and the open sights.

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Re: Rigby rifle without open sights? [Re: kuduae]
      #269250 - 14/08/15 06:41 PM

A Rigby without irons turned up in Australia a couple of years ago.
See link below.
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=234579&an=0&page=6#Post234579
Rick

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