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GPJ12345
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The Great 1800 era Weltevreden Black powder Rifle hunting Ex
      #265679 - 30/05/15 12:31 AM

Good day to all members.
I think it appropriate to share a recent hunt with you ...opinions are welcomed...enjoy the post , it is a link to another forum where I posted the recent hunt...it is just to show a person can still live like the old people...enjoy!!!!
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Re: The Great 1800 era Weltevreden Black powder Rifle hunting Ex [Re: GPJ12345]
      #265680 - 30/05/15 12:50 AM

Excellent, thanks for posting the link.

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Re: The Great 1800 era Weltevreden Black powder Rifle hunting Ex [Re: DarylS]
      #265687 - 30/05/15 03:24 AM

Nice to see the glorious blackpowder getting to show that it is still able to bring home the goods.
Thanks for sharing.

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Re: The Great 1800 era Weltevreden Black powder Rifle hunting Ex [Re: Iowa_303s]
      #265689 - 30/05/15 03:44 AM

excellent!

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Re: The Great 1800 era Weltevreden Black powder Rifle hunting Ex [Re: lancaster]
      #265825 - 02/06/15 01:06 PM

What a great trip to take part in.

Good to see Gert taking time off from his 375 restoration project.

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Re: The Great 1800 era Weltevreden Black powder Rifle hunting Ex [Re: Bidgee]
      #265867 - 03/06/15 12:30 PM

Excellent!

And a request - if any of you gentlemen who participated in this expedition has time, please consider writing an article and posting it on our E-zine as a permanent record here. Hopefully, it will inspire future period hunts in North America, Australia, and New Zealand as well . . .

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Re: The Great 1800 era Weltevreden Black powder Rifle hunting Ex [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #265882 - 04/06/15 04:47 AM

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Excellent!

And a request - if any of you gentlemen who participated in this expedition has time, please consider writing an article and posting it on our E-zine as a permanent record here. Hopefully, it will inspire future period hunts in North America, Australia, and New Zealand as well . . .



Melhukamdar

Let me see if we can assist in your request..I will ask Willie to upload the article he wrote for a hunting magazine in our country...I will come back to you..

Thank you members for the kind response, it really is much appreciated...

Gert

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Re: The Great 1800 era Weltevreden Black powder Rifle hunting Ex [Re: GPJ12345]
      #265915 - 04/06/15 10:23 PM


Gert,
I loved your write up on your black powder hunt, especially the pictures. Much of your clothing and gear is similar to the stuff we used to use here in the U.S. back in the 70's and 80's when I attended Rendezvous around the country. I have shot and hunted with black powder muzzleloaders for almost 50 years. I currently own a .62 caliber jaeger rifle that I built way back when, and a .45 caliber flintlock that was built by a famous maker here in the U.S.A. Bob

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Re: The Great 1800 era Weltevreden Black powder Rifle hunting Ex [Re: Birdhunter50]
      #265920 - 04/06/15 11:59 PM

Hallo Birdhunter, thank you for the reply, it really is good to hear from you...yes I really am driven to shoot these old rifles more frequently...I am purchasing a Martini Henry carbine shortly to use exclusively for the expedition next year....I am therefore asking around for any person who have extra brass to sell to acknowledge if willing to sell...I have received some contacts to approach in this regard but are looking around as well for any more possibilities...

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Re: The Great 1800 era Weltevreden Black powder Rifle hunting Ex [Re: GPJ12345]
      #266290 - 11/06/15 04:48 PM

Is the Magtech 24 guage shot shell brass available there Gert. I make all my 577-450 brass from it.

First trim to initial length (60mm)making sure to polish the mouth of the case as this is where the forming problems often start. The a good anneal is required.
Using Imperial sizing die wax I push the case into the FLS die (from the Lee Set) until the mouth just starts to turn. Care is needed to feel the turn start and to stop at this point.



Some do all their forming in the lee Dies but if you take three 7/8 bolts and drill one with a 15mm hole, the next with a 14mm and the third with a 13mm hole then put a good taper out to the bolt edge and you have your forming dies. I had an unused set of dies and the seating die made a handy start for one of the forming dies but a simple 7/8 bolt was used for the others

Taking the cases that have the mouth turned over and using a length of copper pipe 34mm long over the case and against the shell holder to stop it going into the first (15mm hole) die past the shoulder you have the first step done



anneal again and repeat with the 14mm hole form die



Then with the 13mm hole die



A further anneal and by many in and out steps with the Lee FLS die you get the fully formed 577-450 case. I stop when I start to feel the shoulder and clean the sizing wax that has pushed down against it so you don't get lube dents


Final length trimming to 59.2mm can be done and you are ready to load .
After the first firing I use the 480 Ruger dies to neck size and this makes for the least brass working and longer case life than the over sizing the Lee die gives.



Then you can go play and while I have a smokeless load for plinking you will no doubt want BP
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Re: The Great 1800 era Weltevreden Black powder Rifle hunting Ex [Re: VonGruff]
      #266319 - 12/06/15 03:56 AM

Garry , thank you very much ...it really is of great help...I need to make my own brass since the Martini Henry brass is really expensive in my country...I need to send you an e-mail...

Thank you very much again.

Regards

Gert

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