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BrianFH
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24 Ga. From Hell
#262987 - 01/04/15 09:21 AM

Hello from a new guy.

Ed Hubel is building a 24 ga, FH for me. ( Similar to 577 NE ) I will cast bullets for it using an Accurate Mould 650 gr.

I know Ed will have a load for me but I am hoping that you folks may have a suggestion for a good powder as well. i.e.. What are you using in 577 NE. This single shot rifle is for my third Cape Buffalo hunt.

I have looked throught this forum but have not found much on powders for 577NE or similar. Any suggestions are sure appreciated.

Thanks in advance, Brian

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DarylS
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Re: 24 Ga. From Hell [Re: BrianFH]
#262995 - 01/04/15 12:00 PM

Brian, 650gr. is perfect along with 160gr. of 1 1/2F Swiss.

If you haven't read the letters to Greener and to "The Field" magazine back in the 1800's, you really should.

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BrianFH
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Re: 24 Ga. From Hell [Re: DarylS]
#262996 - 01/04/15 12:44 PM

Thanks Daryl for your reply.

Sorry, I don't know what 1 1/2F Swiss is. Black powder?

Also, Thanks for the reading suggestion. I think that I will like that.

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BrianFH
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Re: 24 Ga. From Hell [Re: BrianFH]
#263021 - 02/04/15 04:52 AM

I found out what 1 1/2F Swiss is. I thought it was something to eat. It's Black powder! (Yikes) I'll pass on that. Brian

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Re: 24 Ga. From Hell [Re: BrianFH]
#263070 - 03/04/15 09:28 AM

Brian, there is probably a load using Accurate Arms 5744. Might e-mail them (Westernpowders.com). I had a recipe from them some years back for .577 Snider that shot very nicely, and I used 5744 for cast loads in .416 Rigby with great satisfaction.

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BrianFH
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Re: 24 Ga. From Hell [Re: BillfromOregon]
#263072 - 03/04/15 10:08 AM

Thanks Bill, I will check it out.

Meanwhile I will be trying loads with the following powders which I have on hand.

Rel 22, Viht 550, 4350

May use 24 ga. card and wad as required.

Thanks again for your response Bill. I will email Western Powders. Brian

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Re: 24 Ga. From Hell [Re: BrianFH]
#263293 - 08/04/15 09:23 PM

In my .577 rifle I tried 4350 and it was a miserable failure, with misfires, bloopers, and lots of unburned powder left behind on the loads that did go off. In all fairness I may not have reached a good enough load density with it, but it was causing so much trouble that I gave up on it.
If you want to try a Reloader powder, I would suggest Reloader 17, I think the 22 is too slow for good clean burns. I wound up using H4198 but I'm not going to tell you how much, you need to start low at around 60 to 65 grains and work slowly upwards from there.
I know 5744 will work but I have no experience with it in the .577's. Benchmark was also a recommended powder but I never got around to trying it yet either. 4895 or 4831 would be my next choice of powders to try, if I were still not satisfied. Good luck with finding that special load that your gun likes. Bob

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DarylS
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Re: 24 Ga. From Hell [Re: Birdhunter50]
#263319 - 09/04/15 01:07 AM

The big cases, normally, do not like the really slow powders.

I would ask about H4895 and perhaps Western Powder's 5744.

Black powder is the easiest, but then both cases and the rifle need water cleanup.

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AkMike
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Re: 24 Ga. From Hell [Re: BrianFH]
#263335 - 09/04/15 06:13 AM

Don't put the cart before the horse.

Just ask Ed what loads he recommends for this set up, then plan accordingly.

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Re: 24 Ga. From Hell [Re: AkMike]
#263402 - 10/04/15 11:39 PM

What length is your case?

I would think 4198 would be the powder of choice with a lead bullet.

With a jacketed bullet you might go a little slower, with Varget being the logical choice.

Why would you have this wildcat made instead of a .577 3" NE?

Curl

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BrianFH
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Re: 24 Ga. From Hell [Re: CptCurl]
#266036 - 07/06/15 06:28 AM

"Cart before the horse..." . Yes, I have some nice loads from Ed. I got on this website for research and to connect with intelligent shooters.

"Why this wild cat" . 24 ga FH is legal in Shotgun Only areas.

Brian

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