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Igorrock
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Re: guns at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #393891 - 17/10/25 08:39 AM

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Was (is) Poul Poulsen a retailer or a gunmaker?




Here is original text in Danish. I translated part nof it in English below:

https://huntershouse.dk/kat1851-P.-Poulsen/side11730-P.-Poulsen-Kj%C3%B8benhavn-3-generationer.html

"P. Poulsen Copenhagen - 3 generations

In the mid-1800s, Danish gunsmithing was also characterized by highly skilled
(internationally renowned and respected) master gunsmiths.

N.J. Löbenitz (from a well-known gunsmithing family) had a shop at Store Kongensgade 33.
Inventor, designer, master gunsmith at Kronborg Rifle Factory and finally also
Senior Military Assessor for the Danish state.

Georg Christensen, stepson of N.J. Löbenitz, takes over the business at Store Kongensgade 33.
He displays the same skill as his stepfather and becomes armourer at the Copenhagen Arsenal.
Appointed to the War Council. In 1878, he transfers the business at Store Kongensgade 33 to
P. Poulsen, who runs the shop for the following generations.

Here is what Støckel writes about three generations of P. Poulsen:

Poulsen, Johannes I, in Stege. Born in 1807 on Bogø (baptized on September 6, 1807), died on October 8, 1877, in Stege. He lost both his parents at an early age and went to live with relatives in Haarbølle on Møn, where he apprenticed as a blacksmith and gunsmith with the local blacksmith, Hans Jørgen Nielsen, who himself had apprenticed with the military gunsmith Cadovius.
In 1825, he went to sea, but returned home and in 1833 was granted citizenship as a gunsmith, coppersmith, and locksmith. (A tinsmith is a craftsman who manufactures and repairs small objects made of brass, copper, bronze, or other metals, such as nameplates, door handles, fittings, or chandeliers).
From his first marriage, he had a son named Poul Poulsen, and from his second marriage, he had two sons named Frederik and Kristian Poulsen.

Poulsen, Poul, in Copenhagen (Store Kongensgade 33). Born on August 16, 1838, in Stege
and died on February 6, 1912, in Copenhagen, son of Johannes I Poulsen in his first marriage.
Half-brother to Fredrik and Kristian Poulsen and father of Johannes II Poulsen.

First apprenticed to his father, then for a few months to Nielsen in Næstved, but from
1854 to Georg Christensen in Copenhagen. Completed his journeyman's piece in 1858.
He then worked from 1861 to 1863 at the London Armory Co. and from 1863 to 1864 at
Adams in London. In 1865, he returned to Georg Christensen.

In 1866, he was sent to North America on behalf of the state to gather information about
cartridge metal and cartridge machines for the Remington M.1867 rifle.
He was foreman at Georg Christensen from 1866 to 1878, when he took over the business.
On June 7, 1911, he was appointed Knight of the Order of Dannebrog. On June 7, 1911, he was appointed Knight of the Order of Dannebrog.

He was considered to be the most skilled gunsmith, not only in Denmark, but in the entire
Nordic region in the period 1878-1912. He was thoroughly knowledgeable in both the technical and artistic
aspects of the profession and had an excellent memory for everything he had seen and heard in a professional context.

Right up until the end, he was able to keep up with the rapid developments in handguns that took place during his career, and he had a vast and in-depth knowledge of the history of weapon technology.

He was a conscientious and skilled teacher. When it was no longer profitable to manufacture guns in this country, he had his rifles made to order by skilled companies in England, Belgium, and Germany.

He introduced the Central cartridge for shooting association use, delivered from 1883 - 1906 rifles and shotguns of a certain appropriate type to Greenland and introduced general use of the smokeless gunpowder for hunting in Denmark.

Finer weapons from his hand he had on the pipes inscribed with his Name "Poul Poulsen" (or simply P. Poulsen) Kiøbenhavn". On plainer weapons, he was content to encase his stamp, two back-to-back P's.

Poulsen, Johannes II., in Copenhagen (Store Kongensgade 33). Born on February 6, 1870 in Copenhagen and died there on March 23, 1921. Son of Poul Poulsen. Learned from his father 1886 - 1890, then traveled 1890 - 1892 to Belgium and Germany to further his education. Was especially with Rongé fils i Liege.

Came home and became a recruit at 1' Battery d.10.05.1892; sent home on 03.10.1893. Called up as second lieutenant at the 1st Artillery Division 12.09 - 03.10.1894. Entered after repatriation in his father's business. Made another trip to Belgium and Germany in 1905. On 19.05.1911 became a member of the commission for the historical weapons collection at Copenhagen's Tøjhus in appreciation of the great interest, both his father and himself had always shown the collection.

On his father's death on 06.02.1912, he took over his business. D. 17.03.1914 he is appointed Kgl. Court groomer. Worked in 1912 and 1913 with the idea of ​​producing a hunting rifle that, while meeting all the modern requirements, did not appear like a factory dozen item, but could be given a personality touch that suited each owner. He personally manufactured in every detail (with the exception of the pipes, which he got manufactured in Belgium ) 2 such hunting doublets, but the costs of their manufacture became so great that he could not find buyers for such personalized weapons in this country, which is why he gave up the idea and donated the first doublet made to Den Historical Weapons Collection d. 01.09.1913. The second of the produced poured his son, Bøssemager Erik Poulsen, Tøjhusmuseet on 16.10.1930, when he canceled the business he ran after his father's death.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #393892 - 17/10/25 08:39 AM

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Could this be a gun imported from the British trade and embellished in Copenhagen?



I suspect this was the case, at least the few I have seen had British proofs. Someone on here may know a bit about them?


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Re: guns at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #393893 - 17/10/25 09:57 AM


Thanks, interesting story. I found the Danish language version earlier but couldn't interpret it apart from the dates and a few words.

Looks like the gun in question was brought in from England (likely) in accordance with the last line or two of the story.

I think of the opening scenes in Out of Africa where Karen (Meryl Streep) and friends are elegantly dressed and firing double shotguns:)) Those were probably English guns for the upper classes back in the day.


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Re: guns at auctions [Re: mckinney]
      #393899 - 18/10/25 07:38 AM

I just added english version of the rest of the original text.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #393902 - 18/10/25 10:57 PM

around 1900 english doubleguns were the highest standard form russia to the united states, around the world.
for anyone who had the money and want to show other he had it. today it would have been the most modern car or the newest electronis gimic you buy for insane money just to show off.
german gunmaker in this time allways lament about this "anglomanie" and assure they could build similar if the customers were willing to pay the same cracy prices they pay for english doubleguns without problems because it was ala mode.

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