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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #387789 - 18/11/24 04:59 AM

Now THAT'S interesting. I've never seen hammers or actions such as those before.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #387795 - 18/11/24 08:39 AM

Selfcocking perhaps?
Or should it be exposed hammers to cock/decock when required?

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: 93x64mm]
      #387798 - 18/11/24 01:08 PM

Cock, uncock is what I was thinking.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #387801 - 19/11/24 06:10 AM

in fact yes, the Krohnengewehr is a construction from 1886 build with sxs doubles and drillings. its some kind of self cocking action with hammer's to uncock and cock again by hand if you wish.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #387802 - 19/11/24 11:04 AM

That makes sense due to the design.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #387804 - 19/11/24 10:04 PM

Daryl,
"a gun without hammers is like a Spaniel without ears"

IMHO this gun qualifies. I like it and would hope someone on the forum can buy or definitively answer the question "self cock"? Maybe it just raises the hammers to half cock.

Edited by LRF (19/11/24 10:11 PM)

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #387806 - 19/11/24 11:56 PM

Quote:

in fact yes, the Krohnengewehr is a construction from 1886 build with sxs doubles and drillings. its some kind of self cocking action with hammer's to uncock and cock again by hand if you wish.



I'd like to see double rifles with such a mechanism. Cocked on opening automatically. Some sort of triggervsafetyy or better cocking release prevention safety. But allow hammers to be unlocked manually.

Nothing different to internal automatic cocking except as exposed can be manually uncocked.

Carrying around a cocked double gun all day with the safety on,it's far more reassuring to be able to uncock it. And also avoid these annoying shoots where the cotton wool organisers expect guns to always be carried broken.

Of course a gun like the Krieghof has a safety de-cocker which uncocks and re-cocks the internal hammers. Pity the Krieghof guns are not styled more classicly

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: NitroX]
      #387807 - 20/11/24 05:11 AM

That buffalo charge that appeared and stopped at point blank range would have succeeded if that PH had not had his rifle ready to shoot.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #388105 - 08/12/24 05:42 PM

nice and rare example of an early british 12 ga pinfire double by Rober Adams
https://www.huuto.net/kohteet/robert-adams-kaksoispiippuinen-12-cal-mustaruuti-kivaari/607907980











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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #388107 - 08/12/24 11:31 PM

Whaaat!! Just an hour ago I watched Diggory Hadoke's Youtube video on the Adams patent number 285 of 1860 underlever gun as pictured here.
Are you reading my mind, lancaster?!!

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: Marrakai]
      #388108 - 09/12/24 02:11 AM

space ,time and thoughts
the spirit realm knows no boundaries

in the last weeks it looks like a big Sauer&Sohn collection is dissolved in denmark

here is another early example, a 16 ga hammer gun
https://www.lauritz.com/en/auctions/hunt...ck-1265/6497988















SN 15732, only 2000 guns after the needle fire double I won last monday http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=388049&Main=274663#Post388049

nice british double 12 ga by Trulock&Harris https://www.lauritz.com/en/auctions/hunt...l.-1265/6501829
must have had a sister once, wonder where it ends



















a belgian Henry Pieper Bayard "Original Diana" 12 ga https://www.lauritz.com/en/auctions/hunt...l.-1270/6500502















iirc, the complete rear part of the barrel set was a mono block, you see the increment

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #388522 - 29/12/24 08:02 PM

12ga Schmidt & Habermann / Suhl SN 4576 https://auctionet.com/de/3951595-schmidt-haberman-bleiben-12-4576-se0313142











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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #388535 - 30/12/24 05:53 AM

Beautiful guns in wonderful condition.
The Anseth Leaf engraving on all of them, so nice and tight.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #388834 - 13/01/25 05:53 AM

Carl Gründig/ Dresden 16 ga
https://auctionet.com/de/3951547-carl-grundig-cal-16-109560













anyone knows Clabrough & Bro`s. ?
a 12 ga https://auctionet.com/de/3951556-clabrough-bros-cal-12-70-4571









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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #388839 - 13/01/25 06:16 AM

Sure like the Carl Gründig/ Dresden 16 ga/.

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: DarylS]
      #388843 - 13/01/25 07:09 AM

german engraving at its best

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: lancaster]
      #388849 - 13/01/25 09:00 AM

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anyone knows Clabrough & Bro`s. ?



Maybe this helps a little....

https://shootingsportsman.com/j-p-clabrough/

https://cornellpubs.com/product/158/

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Re: guns at auctions [Re: Igorrock]
      #388855 - 13/01/25 12:32 PM


An early example of the company’s high-grade guns, this thoroughly embellished 12-gauge, Serial No. 126, features back-action locks of the maker’s patent and a cloverleaf-shape doll’s-head slotted for a third fastener.

Clabrough & Golcher 1895-6 Catalog (San Francisco)


Back action locks? Who does their descriptions?

Beautiful shotgun. Fine indeed.

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