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ducmarc
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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: Homer]
      #283522 - 06/06/16 10:45 PM

I.ve shot a lot of different pistols but I was to only allowed one it would be a good quality 1911 my favorite is a 70 series colt its an old ispc from the seventies .ultra smooth,you can buy anything for it.get it tuned by the best.convert it to 460 Rowland with a barrel kit from Clark customs.and have 44 mag.ballistics

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: ducmarc]
      #283523 - 06/06/16 10:47 PM

there's barrel kits for 7.62x25 too.now that's a hot rod.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: ducmarc]
      #283524 - 06/06/16 10:48 PM

Here in the states at least the resale value can't be beat either

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: ducmarc]
      #283537 - 07/06/16 01:01 AM

I shot a Russian 7.62x25 last year at the range - young woman had one - it barked, but was amazingly easy to shoot well with it's typical mil-spec sights - and a bloody accurate pistol it was too. 2" group at 20yards offhand - the entire mag. into 2".

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: NitroX]
      #283547 - 07/06/16 05:36 AM

I recently have done some addl training with a retired Navy Seal..he was shooting a mod 34 Glock in 9mm..tricked out..was really nice to shoot and I am not normally a great Glock fan..

Long story short, my tricked out one should be done mid June..will advise..removed the finger grips, added stippling, new trigger, new sights and different mag release...don't plan to compete but plan to practice at least one day per week, preferably more..business currently has me traveling directly past a gun range one time per week..plan is to pull in and shoot a few boxes before heading home...

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - SIG P226? [Re: Ripp]
      #291563 - 07/12/16 11:12 AM

Anyone have any experience with the SIG P226 or thoughts on it?

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - .357 SIG [Re: NitroX]
      #291564 - 07/12/16 11:19 AM

How about the .357 SIG as a chambering?

How does it compare to other cartridges, such as 9mm Para, .40 S&W etc?

Does it qualify as a major IPSC round as does the .38 Super for example? (Note: Remember in Aust calibres over .38 are restricted for many disciplines eg IPSC)


I was told last week however that I should join another range, where for example silhouette comps, guys are using .45 1911 etc.

(Where an argument could be made the additional knockdown power was required to knockdown steel targets, or where the comps were Comnibwealth and Olympic Games comps, exemptions to allow greater calibres were made.)

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - .357 SIG [Re: NitroX]
      #291761 - 10/12/16 07:59 PM

G'Day Fella's,

NitroX, the .357 Sig is a great cartridge, no doubt about it but I personally believe, it is just a passing Fad whose popularity will fade.
Many of my local IPSC shooters that were bitten by the .357 Sig bug, have now sold there's and moved onto another calibre. In some instances, this has been a .38 Super (1911 type) or just another 9mm Para (Sig Sauer, CZ etc), for which I have been involved.

Whilst I recently "acquired" of another .38 Super (BUL M-5, BUL Custom), I have my mind set on a Sphinx, as my next 9mm Para.

Hope that helps

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - .357 SIG [Re: Homer]
      #292939 - 01/01/17 07:07 AM

Won't decide until an order goes through but everyone needs a 9mm so perhaps that is what the first will be ...

No one has any experience with the SIG P226 to share?

This is my third year of Christmas and Birthday presents forgone so I think I have paid for it by now !!! Got to get an order going!

(I still want to handle and preferably try out whatever I order first though)

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - .357 SIG [Re: NitroX]
      #293004 - 02/01/17 08:53 AM

G'Day Nitro X and Happy New Year!

Mid 2016, I got in a new Sig 226 X-Five (9mm Para/9x19) for a customer.
John, they really are an exceedingly well made and finished pistol but as you say, you need to handle one first, as they are not for everybody (including myself).

Walther Q-9 is another nice option, along with the various current versions of the CZ 75.

Best Wishes to you all for 2017!
Homer

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - .357 SIG [Re: Homer]
      #293123 - 04/01/17 12:22 PM

Homer
I am without handgun which is a gap that needs filling.
I have always liked the P226 without actually handling one. I will do that however your thoughts on why they are not for you would be appreciated.
Rick

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - .357 SIG [Re: 375Brno]
      #293166 - 05/01/17 12:05 PM

375 Brno, please don't get me wrong, the Sig Sauer range of pistols are Quality all the way.

In particular, there are two things about the P226 range of pistols, that don't suit me.
1) It doesn't fit my hand shape (and Glocks 17's and 19's are the same).
2) The bore axis, sits a bit high in my hand (recoil leverage is magnified and recoil recovery slows, because of this).

As an example, a couple of weeks ago, one of the IPSC stages I shot, had a series of 5 x cardboard "Shoot" targets. Three were at ground level, each target was placed between and at the rear edge (recessed), of plastic 44 gallon drums (4 drums, 3 targets). Another 2 cardboard "Shoot" targets, were then located on top of the three ground level targets, again, between another three 44 gallon plastic drums.
So we had a pyramid of 4 x 44 gallon drums on the ground, with another 3 x 44 gallon drums sitting on top of the bottom 4 x drums. Between each of the drums, were located a pyramid of 3 and 2 "Shoot" targets. For concealability reasons, all targets were placed at the rear edge of the plastic drums.

The shooter had to start, standing level at one side (either Left or Right, your choice), of the outside edge of these drums, and 1.5 meters back from the leading edge of the drums.
The shooter started with a fully loaded (one up the spout and a full magazine, 10 + 1), and holstered handgun.
At the RO's command (the timers beep), the shooter had to draw and engage all 5 targets with two shots each, and in a safe manner and as quickly as possible whilst moving (in my case L to R), into a position to be able to sight and then engage the targets (both top and bottom).
FYI, I was able to get 2 shots on each target, for a total of 10 shots (but not a "Possible" score), in 3.91 seconds with my stock standard HS-2000 pistol, in 9mm Para (9x19mm).


Sorry for the drawn out "example" fella's but the above I hope, will give you a better understanding of why a "Handgun", has to fit and feel comfortable in YOUR HAND!

375 Brno, I hope that answered your question?

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - .357 SIG [Re: Homer]
      #293174 - 05/01/17 01:58 PM

Homer
Thanks for a detailed answer. I think that what you are saying is that you need to be able to recover from the previous shot quickly to be able to get the next away, etc ?
Without having tried it myself that does make sense. Again thanks for taking the time to explain.
Rick

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - .357 SIG [Re: 375Brno]
      #293180 - 05/01/17 02:51 PM

One reason I very much would like to try the handgun first is just this reason, how it feels in the hand when shooting.

For the range guns, I liked the CZ75 at first and still it is an option. Trying out the STI Trojan I just shot better everytime ... Both of these are still options too. I think the Trojans trigger was better. Didn't like the Glock, S&W and Tangfolio at all, other range guns.

The guy that suggested the SIG P226 to me also said it fitted him well, but you would want to try one out first. He is interstate somewhere, Sydney I think, so not an option unless/until I go over there.

I also like the SIG say vs the STI, as it does have a single stack magazine, in case we ever get the right to have more than 10 shot magazines.

Homer, sending you a PM.

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Edited by NitroX (05/01/17 02:53 PM)

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - .357 SIG [Re: 375Brno]
      #293186 - 05/01/17 03:26 PM

Quote:

Homer
Thanks for a detailed answer. I think that what you are saying is that you need to be able to recover from the previous shot quickly to be able to get the next away, etc ?
Without having tried it myself that does make sense. Again thanks for taking the time to explain.
Rick



Yes 375 Brno, sorry but that is what I was trying to say.
The better it fits your hand (as does the HS 2000 in my case), the better you can generally shoot it.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - .357 SIG [Re: Homer]
      #293192 - 05/01/17 06:55 PM

It was a good explanation Homer. Thanks.

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