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470NEBD
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.577 Black powder express hammer gun
#257651 - 09/12/14 08:42 AM

does anyone have a 577 BPE hammergun? I'm looking at one and wondering what look out for and also reloading this beast is it easy. I like the big caliber stuff,I'm tempted to just get a 500 or 450 BPE nitro for black proofed gun,it appears this is only for Black powder no nitro because of the twist of the barrels...

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CptCurl
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: 470NEBD]
#257655 - 09/12/14 09:41 AM

Here's mine:

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....3&fpart=all

Curl

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tinker
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: CptCurl]
#257666 - 09/12/14 04:43 PM

Curl's example is so very nice.
Note that a fellow will spend years looking for the right .577 BPE double rifle - he could spend a couple years in search of *any* .577 BPE double rifle.

Best to you in your search.
Have the money at the ready.

Cheers
Tinker

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470evans
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: tinker]
#257692 - 10/12/14 08:50 AM

Very nice rifle! I always wanted a 577 bpe. I may have to get serious about finding one. Love to shoot one of our big boars with one!

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470NEBD
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: 470evans]
#257693 - 10/12/14 09:39 AM

yes that is a nice rifle. I did not know they had stalking safeties on the big stuff?

Very nice gun in it makers case!!

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CptCurl
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: 470NEBD]
#257700 - 10/12/14 12:59 PM

Quote:

does anyone have a 577 BPE hammergun? I'm looking at one and wondering what look out for and also reloading this beast is it easy. I like the big caliber stuff,I'm tempted to just get a 500 or 450 BPE nitro for black proofed gun,it appears this is only for Black powder no nitro because of the twist of the barrels...

For consideration of reloading, here's an article I wrote and shamelessly self-published several years ago:

http://rbsiii.com/PaperPatchedBullets/index.html

Curl

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AkMike
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: 470NEBD]
#257708 - 10/12/14 08:15 PM

Quote:

does anyone have a 577 BPE hammergun? I'm looking at one and wondering what look out for and also reloading this beast is it easy. I like the big caliber stuff,I'm tempted to just get a 500 or 450 BPE nitro for black proofed gun,it appears this is only for Black powder no nitro because of the twist of the barrels...

My John Patstone 577 BPE works just fine with loads of NfB.
Are you saying the rifling of the barrels or is a Damascus twist to the barrels? Either way with good sounds tubes I'd use NfB loads down them.

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Marrakai
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: AkMike]
#257710 - 10/12/14 11:36 PM

470NEBD:
Remember that in almost all cases with correctly-designed bullets (hard-cast, paper-patched or thin jacket), the Nitro-for-Black load is understood to generate less chamber pressure that the original BP load. ...and with heavier bullets!
You may well be doing any BP rifle a big favor by feeding it with an appropriate light nitro load.
Read Wrighty's book "Shooting the British Double Rifle" for the inside skinny on this.

In my experience with a number of vintage doubles, the rifling twist-rate is never a consideration.

Hope this helps

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rigbymauser
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: Marrakai]
#257778 - 13/12/14 12:19 AM

http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp/fullcatalogue.asp?salelot=A1214++++914+&refno=+++76477

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TH44
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: rigbymauser]
#257805 - 13/12/14 10:38 AM

I took some pics for you there for the two .577 x 2 3/4" Hammer rifles

The E. M. Reilly

It is generelly good condition

Sold for £4200 GBP + 30% commission - £5460

This Stephen Grant was top lever and reblued (some time ago) barrels/action

Interesting cross bolt

£3000 + 30% reflected as slightly less good than the Reilly

I took some other pics, will try to post tomorrow (sorry about the less than good pics, lots of people there

TH44

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TH44
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: TH44]
#257806 - 13/12/14 10:45 AM

Re: the original post, I meant to post these pics earlier this week of my own .577

(it has been here before but some may not have seen it)

It is not as superb as Curl's but a good working gun with full 3" case

Substantial barrels

TH44

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CptCurl
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: TH44]
#257824 - 13/12/14 11:41 PM

Nice rifles all!

Curl

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calpappas
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: CptCurl]
#260567 - 16/02/15 01:49 PM

Gents:
I don't spend as much time here as I should, but I have a few bpe rifles for sale, including a .500 and a .577.
You can see the .577 on my website <calpappas.com>
On the navigation bar, click on double rifles for sale and the .577 is the first one.
I also have a Powell .500x3". It is not on the site yet.
You can email me at <pappas@mtaonline.net> for any info, photos, etc.
Cheers,
Cal
PS. While I'm at it I also have a nice 8-bore on my site for sale, too. It is placed under the .577. A best quality Jeffery box lock 8, ball and shot gun. Lots of nice double rifle photos on my site. Have a look.

Edited by calpappas (16/02/15 01:51 PM)

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AkMike
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: calpappas]
#260568 - 16/02/15 04:48 PM

Here?

http://www.calpappas.com/id33.html

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jgrabow
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: AkMike]
#267350 - 04/07/15 06:16 AM

I recently purchased the T. Bland & Son 577 BPE from Cal Pappas. Here's a picture.

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TH44
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: jgrabow]
#267354 - 04/07/15 08:31 AM

Good on you! I am sure you will appreciate it

If you shoot it, please post with loads

TH44

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Bidgee
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: TH44]
#267356 - 04/07/15 08:55 AM

Nice, looks like a good bear hunting rifle.

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bouldersmith
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Re: .577 Black powder express hammer gun [Re: Bidgee]
#267409 - 05/07/15 11:13 PM

Well that sure looks fun Jim.

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