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Lynx
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Loc: Rajasthan, India

Re: Old Indian hunting grounds [Re: NitroX]
#27229 - 04/03/05 07:31 AM

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So the scene of wetlands with the lovely dog (what a great picture of one's dog BTW - worth framing) is the same wetlands as the other photos further up. I note there are stone steps near the dog. Is one of the hotels or palaces near the stone steps or is it a boat landing of some sort?

NitroX,

The wetlands picture with the dalmation are the same wetlands as the pictures further up. The stone steps lead down to the lake and are used for boating. The heritage hotel is about a 150 yards south.

When waterfowl hunting was permitted birds were shot at these wetlands during the morning & evening flight. No hides were used, one just used the natural cover. Last month, we watched 362 ducks (pintail, teals, porchards, nuktas, widgeon, shovelers etc) fly overhead and land in the wetland during the evening flight. What a beautiful sight..
No nasties in these wetlands today but in the old days there were plenty of crocodiles.

These crocodiles were shot in March, 1940 in a lake a few miles from these wetlands.

1st pic. Length - 13'7", Bp(between pegs) 13'3", tail - 7' 4 1/2", .365 DB HV 19.3.40

These dogs used to retrieve from these wetlands.

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RHB
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Loc: India

Re: Old Indian hunting grounds [Re: Lynx]
#27238 - 04/03/05 01:28 PM

Thanks for the pics, Lynx.

Rustam

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mehulkamdar
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Re: Old Indian hunting grounds [Re: Lynx]
#27250 - 04/03/05 05:19 PM

Lynx,

Thanks for the fantastic pictures. I am sure that there is a story behind them. Please give us some details about the hunts.

So it is a dalmatian - I stand corrected!

Thanks and good hunting!

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NitroX
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Re: Old Indian hunting grounds [Re: Lynx]
#27265 - 05/03/05 01:59 PM

Some great photos.

I didn't know India had crocodiles but it would be unusual if they didn't. I remember reading once about crocodiles being introduced to the Ganges to help "clean up" the bodies deposited there as part of funerals. Don't know about the veracity of that news item though.

Were these crocodiles maneaters, or hunted for sport?

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Lynx
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Re: Old Indian hunting grounds [Re: NitroX]
#27276 - 05/03/05 10:23 PM

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Were these crocodiles maneaters, or hunted for sport?

I am told these were hunted for sport, there were no reported man eating incidents in these areas.

Some of the large crocodiles shot in the chambal river near Kota had ornaments inside them. Village folk wore a lot of silver ornaments.

Lynx

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mehulkamdar
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Re: Old Indian hunting grounds [Re: NitroX]
#27298 - 06/03/05 03:49 AM

NitroX,

The fish eating Gavial is endangered in India but some of the captive breeding projects especially the government crocodile farm at Sathanur in Tamilnadu have been so successful that they are crowded and overburdened with crocs. They cannot be released into the wild because they would pose a danger to people and the government doesn't allow farming them for their hides.

The Gavial would be a safe bet for release in the wild because they do not have a record of attacking humans but then people are frightened and the government would have to tread carefully if it decides to release any in the Ganges and other North Indian rivers.

Good hunting!

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AdamTayler
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Re: Old Indian hunting grounds [Re: mehulkamdar]
#27389 - 07/03/05 07:14 AM

Mehul

What amazes me is that in other countries croc farming is allowed, as is mink farming, so why hasn't someone opened up a tiger farm? Start breeding for hides and parts, but also keep strict records of family lines and bring in semen from others in captivity or the wild if possible and deepen the gene pool. Over here it is relatively easy to get one for a pet, and from what I understand, the kits that are not sold are put down. The demand for the parts is not going to go away, so why not legally supply it?

I am also reminded of a huge cache of confiscated ivory being burned in Kenya (?) in the late '80's or early '90's but I can not clearly remember the reason why they did not auction it off. I know it is off topic so I'll post the question in the Africa section. Maybe someone knows the answer as well as the effect it had on future poaching activity.

Adam

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mehulkamdar
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Re: Old Indian hunting grounds [Re: AdamTayler]
#27415 - 07/03/05 12:59 PM

Adam,

I would agree with you completely but the greenies who dictate these policies would not. At present the USA has more tigers than the rest of the world put together but international regulations do not allow them to be farmed. I have seen and heard tigers in the wild. I am pessimistic that they would be seen outside zoos in India in the future.

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NitroX
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Re: Old Indian hunting grounds [Re: AdamTayler]
#27429 - 07/03/05 04:19 PM

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I am also reminded of a huge cache of confiscated ivory being burned in Kenya (?) in the late '80's or early '90's but I can not clearly remember the reason why they did not auction it off. I know it is off topic so I'll post the question in the Africa section. Maybe someone knows the answer as well as the effect it had on future poaching activity.

A political media stunt. It was probably done at a time when there may have been discussions on re-opening ivory trade by countries which have actual and real conservation programmes, unlike Kenya. The fact the previous President's daugher ran the biggest ivory poaching ring is quite relevant.

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Re: Old Indian hunting grounds [Re: Lynx]
#34728 - 16/07/05 09:09 PM

Lynx and Mehul

As I have mentioned in another thread, I hope to partake of your brilliant country this December / January.

And see some of these grand sites myself. I would appreciate your advice on the other thread. Thanks.

See here India - this December ?

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NitroX
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Re: Old Indian hunting grounds [Re: Mpofu]
#378965 - 29/08/23 03:07 AM

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Just got back from a long sojourn of the length and breadth of India.
Mehul, the wetlands in the pics looks like the Bharatpur bird sanctuary.
I spent a few days at Bhandavgarh Tiger reserve, the old shooting grounds of the Maharajas of Rewa, and home of the white Tigers. We had the privelige of close up views of tigers on three days running. Pretty incredible stuff, in particular, we saw a tigress stalking a herd of Chital in the valley below, she was doing well till the Langurs (monkeys) spotted her and put up the alarm call.
I have a bit of footage of a tigress taking exception to an elephant (laden with tourists)getting a bit too close, she clears the front of the ele, and takes the mahouts arm off in one bite.
I will try and get it loaded up for this forum.
M.

Mpofu has been on the NE FB group site and I've recently chatted with him. I wonder if this is the video seen many times on the internet, the charging, leaping tiger at a mahout?

Hopefully some chance,nslight, I stored some images off many posts and threads on my PC(s) at the time, or on external HDDs. If so and if they can be identified and matched. When I have a working pc again.

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Edited by NitroX (29/08/23 03:29 AM)

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