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I am a foreigner John but it baffles me why they don´t allow sport hunting. I reckon it would bring in quite a lot of money ! regards, Mike

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Another man has been killed by a saltwater crocodile. Fishing from a boat in Kakadu National Park he was reported to be emptying a bucket over the side of the boat when pulled out by a 4.7 m crocodile. The crocodile was later shot and human remains found in its stomach.

The Northern Territory government has called for a discussion on how to better manage the considerable crocodile threat from a large population of saltwater crocodiles unafraid of humans. Both the NT Territory and the Queensland State Government have called for legal hunting of crocodiles many times, probably at least six times, in the past ten plus years and each time is denied by the Federal Commonwealth Government.

The safari quota has been called for 25 and also 50 crocodiles. It should be noted 500 to 600 crocodiles are taken out of the wild each year under CITES quota, and the safari quota is a small number of that. For anti-hunting, and anti-conservation ideological reasons the Federal governments both Liberal and Labor, under Howard, Rudd, Gillard and now Abbott have denied legal safari hunting.

A legal safari industry would have many benefits. It would help prevent human deaths from dangerous crocodiles unafraid of humans. A limited shooting/hunting would encourage crocodiles to be afraid of man and perhaps prevent some attacks.

Saltwater crocodile safaris would greatly benefit the traditional owners of land in the North, providing real income and some employment.

Saltwater crocodiles are in no way endangered or threatened and have recovered to a huge population numbers since the hide shooting of the 1960's.

The Federal Government should be held responsible for any saltwater crocodile deaths if they continue to deny limited hunting of saltwater crocodiles.

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Mike and DV

Why does the Australian Federal (National) government have its head up its arses on this topic?

Both the Labor (ie left or socialist) and Liberal (ie conservative party in Australia) national governments have repeatedly said no to safari hunting of saltwater crocodiles in Australia. Four different Prime Ministers and probably more than that Ministers of the Environment.

Two State Gov'ts - Northern Territory and Queensland - have repeated asked for a safari hunting export quota.

Aboriginal landowners have supported the safari industry request. As it helps empower often poor communities with income from safari outfitters.

Good conservationists and environmentalists have supported it. Saltwater crocs were once endangered after the excesses of shooting fro hides. Now saltwater crocs are VERY numerous.

Many reasons to do it. All of them good.

Why not?

Australia has never had any real great sporting hunting culture. Most of it has been based around the killing for feral animals. Ducks and quail are one of the exceptions were hunting of native species is permitted other than as a control measure. I can not legally hunt a kangaroo for sport unless I shoot it using a cull/pest destruction permit or under some permit for meat shooting/permits.

Dingoes again are not a sporting animal per the gov't. Sometimes can be shot at will, in areas where sheep are present. Sometimes totally protected. Dingoes are considered native even though they were introduced by the Aboriginal settlers to Australia some 10,000 to 30,000 years ago.

Water buffalo, the "rare" banteng (ie rare elsewhere in the world), deer, pigs, goats, rabbits etc are all introduced and often the plan by the gov't is total eradication if it can be achieved. Even for banteng. Luckily the extremists have not pushed that one, as the herd is mostly on gov't land, but the Aboriginals don't want them shot out.

The URWINS.

Steve Urwin ie the self called "Crocodile Hunter" used to publicly denounce any attempt to introduce sporting hunting of crocodiles. Yet was happy to behind the scenes catch wild crocs for his "zoo" and I believe croc farm for hides export. IMO less wild crocs to be 'trapped' meant competition for people like him wanting to profit from the trapping.

Steve Urwin was the darling of the anti-gun Prime Minister John Howard who gave him a cattle station with gov't funds so it could be owned for "conservation". Allegedly only 200 acres was fenced off for "conservation" the rest continued for profit making cattle production. Not bad being given several millions dollars of taxpayer money for a private business ...

The other Urwins, also still shrilly squeal whenever safari crocodile hunting is proposed.

CITES

I believe there are at the moment 500 to 600 export permits of wild saltwater crocodiles/hides etc per year. These are "problem" crocs trapped, killed and hides exported.

The safari industry has probably seven times proposed either 25 and 50 of the EXISTING permits be used for safari hunting, meaning no additional crocs are taken from the wild. This is NEVER mentioned in mainstream media.

Our Liberals are just as much idiots as Labor when it comes to guns and hunting. Full of wankers and urban egotistical power hungry twits. Party solidarity - meaning every parliamentarian is meant to toe the party policy and decision in public - means our politicians do not speak out in favour of their own constituents regional needs as much as say in the USA. Voting with the opposite party often means the end of their career.

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Australia has never had any real great sporting hunting culture.

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What I really mean here is NO GOVERNMENT supported culture. Individuals of course do having hunting and hunting culture for generations.

Some of the State Gov'ts are far better than the National Gov't, ie look at the support (for money reasons) Queensland and the NT give to proposing croc hunting, NSW has given some support primarily due to our own Shooters and Fishers Party efforts, Victoria is probably the strongest. South Australia has supported it for a hundred years, like most states more in the past and less in more recent times.

As for political efforts, having given up on the mainstream parties, shooters, hunters and fishers created the Shooters & Fishers Party with three state parliamentarians, two in NSW and one in Western Australia.

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John aka NitroX

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