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TH44
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Re: Oh Hell, Joseph Egg Officers Pistols [Re: tinker]
      #245129 - 06/04/14 09:31 AM

VERY nice - although I think you should return them to the UK whence they originated! (I think this is good English!)

I will send you an address!!

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Re: Oh Hell, Joseph Egg Officers Pistols [Re: tinker]
      #245133 - 06/04/14 09:48 AM

Fantastic pair Curl!
Not much more to be said...

The lack of smoke is of concern though...

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Re: Oh Hell, Joseph Egg Officers Pistols [Re: Huvius]
      #245160 - 07/04/14 01:08 AM

Don't know why - but I didn't ask - are they rifled? Since they do have rear sights, brings the question, however they could just as easily be smooth bored?

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Re: Oh Hell, Joseph Egg Officers Pistols [Re: DarylS]
      #245179 - 07/04/14 07:03 AM

They are smooth bores.

Curl

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Re: Oh Hell, Joseph Egg Officers Pistols [Re: CptCurl]
      #245181 - 07/04/14 08:09 AM

TKS - bro wanted to know, since they have rear sights.
Still, they'd make good tiger crushers up close and non-friendly over the elephant's head or side of the Howdah! THAT would be exciting - Yowser! - CLICK! (in flintlock terms, that is a misfire - no pan ignition, no powder ignition, just a heart rendering CHICK! FABOOM!- the other goes - dead kitty-cat - hopefully.

Have you measured the bores?

Fun test - place a blank sheet of bristle board (3" square of paper) with tiger's head drawn - 3 feet from you -on your right, facing down-range. Sit facing forwards - your 14 bore DR rifle is empty and you are attacked from the side, draw the pistols from in front of you (probably kneeling?, turn and shoot that cat's head. What fun - Talley Ho! What if 2 cats - one from each side - bravo - golly good day, wot?

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Re: Oh Hell, Joseph Egg Officers Pistols [Re: DarylS]
      #245242 - 08/04/14 11:25 PM

I haven't measured the bores. They are "military calibre" and thus made to shoot the same balls as the Brown Bess musket, standard arm of the day. Anybody know the standard diameter for the Brown Bess ball?

As for smoke, I'm still giving thought to that.

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Re: Oh Hell, Joseph Egg Officers Pistols [Re: CptCurl]
      #245250 - 09/04/14 01:21 AM

Seems to me, the calibre of ball in the issue ctgs. was in the .69 to .70 range.
With the normal British Musket of the day being the Bess, in one or more of it's varieties being .75 to .80 cal, you can see one reason for the atrocious inaccuracy. Yes - being smooth didn't help, however with less windage between the ball and bores, accuracy was improved immensely.

The US military muskets up to and including the 1842 model in caplock, were of .69 cal. (.690 to .700") and those ctg.s used balls of .64" cal until 1820 when their calibre was increased to .65". This virtually doubled the hits at 100 yards, which was still dismal,ie: 2 to 4 on a 3' target at 100yards out of 10 shots is still better than 1 or 2.

Due to the inaccuracy of a single 'shot' in the ctg., buck and ball ctgs. were much more popular as they quadrupled the wounding factor. This, of course was due to the inclusion of 3, 000 buck with the round ball loading.

Buck and ball loads are a LOT of fun in a pistol, Curl! I do understand some reluctance to shoot these beautiful pistols very much - however, to touch off a few shots from each, would indeed make them happy. A squib load of about 40gr. 2F should work just fine.

With bores that large, you can shine and even drop a small diameter flashlight down the bores to inspect the interiors from the muzzle end.

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Re: Oh Hell, Joseph Egg Officers Pistols [Re: tinker]
      #246578 - 28/04/14 11:12 AM

Wow. Simply wow.

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Re: Oh Hell, Joseph Egg Officers Pistols [Re: NitroX]
      #246599 - 28/04/14 09:55 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Can't wait for the field report.



That will depend on who wins the Virginian's first duel ...



I'd say he's being doing rather well! There's no roundballs in the case anymore

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