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Ron_Vella
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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Matabele]
      #250989 - 25/07/14 01:12 AM

Shown below are three photos of the .32-20 barrels. I have soldered on the ribs and cleaned up the resultant mess. Here's how I do that. I've found that the best solvent for the residual rosin flux is gasoline. I take the barrels outside, pour about a quart of gas into an old pail, and scrub everything well using a brass-bristled brush. The one that I use is one of those toothbrush-sized cleaning brushes that you see at all of the gun shows.

I then use various wood chisels, that I keep honed razor-sharp, to pare away all of the sags, bumps, and lumps of extraneous solder. I also use the chisels to pare away all of the surplus solder along the edges of the ribs. Your chisels need to be sharp enough that they'll cut away the solder in one long continuous thread!

Next I switch to a wire wheel. I use a 3/4 HP motor, at about 3500 RPM, mounted on top of two pieces of 2" x 8" x 12" lumber, on top of my bench. This gives me about 5" beneath the wheel to work with. I use an 8" x 1" medium wire wheel. This set-up will remove all of the solder with about an hour's careful work. Always wear heavy leather welding gauntlets when doing this job. If you slip, while bare-handed, that wheel will remove flesh faster that it will solder. Please don't ask how I know this!!!

The wire wheel WILL leave all of the steel surfaces with a fairly pronounced brushed finish. To remove that finish, I stone everything, starting with 100, then 150, then 220, then 320, and finally 400 grit stones, well flooded with a mixture of varsol and motor oil. The finish that results from that is what you see in these photos. These barrels now have to go to Bill's house so that the dovetails, mortises, and slots can be milled for the front and rear sights, the scope bases, and the front sight "window hood". Before all of that, I'll have him level the assembly in the milling vises and mill the quarter rib and front sight ramp down to finished height.

One last thing. You'll notice that there are two counter-bored holes in the quarter rib. Through these are 8-40 fillister screws into holes that I've drilled and tapped into the top rib and the forend hanger. I've found that this is a great way to keep the rib in the proper position and tight to the monoblock, during the soldering operation. The rear hole will be hidden under the rear scope base. The front hole will be hidden under the rear sight.







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tinker
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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #250992 - 25/07/14 03:21 AM

Looks great!

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Matabele
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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: tinker]
      #251205 - 28/07/14 10:51 PM

Coming along nicely Ron! That's going to be a fun setup.

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DarylS
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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Matabele]
      #251210 - 29/07/14 12:17 AM

Need a new case now. Let's see, stock, scope, 4 sets of barrels - maybe have to put wheels on that case, Ron. Well done.

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Ron_Vella
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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: DarylS]
      #251220 - 29/07/14 01:54 AM

You're right Daryl, I've "built" myself out of this case now! However, it's 3 sets of barrels, not 4, plus stock/action, 2 scopes, fore end, cleaning rod, snap caps, etc. I've been looking thru Jeff's website trying to determine which of his cases will be large enough, without being too large, for me to gut the interior then re-line and re-configure it to accomodate all of this.

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Aaron_Little
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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #251370 - 01/08/14 12:11 AM

Ron, would your machine shop friend have any desire to produce some complete double actions in square form? I have a machine shop digitizing an action for me know, but their timeframe and costs leave me wanting to do d someone else to produce it.

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Ron_Vella
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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Aaron_Little]
      #251509 - 03/08/14 10:43 PM

Aaron,

I will ask Bill but I see a world of problems:

1) We are in Canada so he would need a permit from your State Dept. to export gun parts to USA.
2) US Customs would then charge you import duties on parts coming in to USA.
3) Bill has DRO but not Cad/Cam so every job is a one-off.
4) He and his wife have both recently retired, are down-sizing, and plan to move to smaller location. He is currently trying to sell his mill.

Best,
Ron.


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Aaron_Little
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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #251514 - 04/08/14 01:41 AM

You are correct Ron, I skipped over the part you being in Canada. The edm'ed monoblock is rather impressive.

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Ron_Vella
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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Aaron_Little]
      #251811 - 09/08/14 12:29 PM

After many hours of machining, filing, and stoning, the two sets of rifle barrels are complete and ready for regulation. Here a few photos. Seen from the breech end, the 6.5x57r barrels are on the left and the .32-20WCF barrels on the right.








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DarylS
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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #251813 - 09/08/14 01:26 PM

Well done, Ron - well done.

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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: DarylS]
      #251827 - 09/08/14 10:23 PM

Looks good Ron. Looking forward to seeing the finished project. Well done.

Waidmannsheil.

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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #252869 - 29/08/14 02:56 AM

As we discussed above, I had to build a new case to accomodate 3 sets of barrels as opposed to the original 2 sets. I started out, 8 days ago, with a sheet of 1/4" plywood, a piece of 1"x4"x96" red oak, some canvas, felt, and leather. Fortunately, I own a planer, so I'm able to create whatever thickness of wood I need. Here is the result. Please don't ask how many hours are invested in making this case. You'd think that I was nuts if I told you!





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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #252879 - 29/08/14 06:50 AM

Looks great Ron, to make anything properly takes a shit load of time but there is a difference between something that looks good and something that looks great.

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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #252883 - 29/08/14 08:15 AM

Wonderful, Ron - one of these days/years, I'll be back in Ontario and we'll have a visit, if possible. I'd really like that.

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Ron_Vella
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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: DarylS]
      #255410 - 18/10/14 02:29 AM

I decided some time ago to build two more fore ends, each fitted to one of the rifle barrels, so that there are no unsightly gaps between wood and barrels. It proved to be a big job but I'm now in the home stretch. The attached two photos show the original in the rear and the new ones to the front, one assembled and the other still in pieces. More photos to come in a few weeks when all of the checkering, stock finishing, and rust-bluing is completed.





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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #255411 - 18/10/14 04:03 AM

Very jealous of your skills. Nice work!

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Matabele
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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Metalguy]
      #255546 - 21/10/14 11:36 PM

Looking great Ron! Seems as though you are having a lot of fun on this one. Hopefully you'll be able to get some field time with it shortly.

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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Matabele]
      #278206 - 20/02/16 02:39 AM

Someone phoned me yesterday, asking for info about this build. I'm bringing it back to the top so that they can find it.

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Re: 6.5x57 Rimmed Double Rifle Project [Re: Ron_Vella]
      #278208 - 20/02/16 02:43 AM

btt

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