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Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ?
      #243055 - 26/02/14 10:05 AM

Watched this movie the other night and at the beginning Alann Quartermaine (Granger) shoots an Elephant with a double rifle.....it is a Hammergun Jones underlever and appears to be at least a 577 But it could be a Bore rifle. Anybody really know ?....just curious. CHRIS

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Re: Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ? [Re: Westley375]
      #243061 - 26/02/14 12:23 PM

I have read it was a Manton 577 NE

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Re: Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ? [Re: Rockdoc]
      #243088 - 27/02/14 11:50 AM

Similar questions asked on African Hunting

Answers.:
• The rifles used were .423 Mauser (10.75 x 68), .375 Mannlicher Schoenauer (9.5x57) & .577 NE Manton & co.

• I have it on good authority that the bolt action seen in the movie (1950) is a Rigby Mauser 400/350 (rimmed version) which was later autioned by MGM and is pictured in a Peterson pulblication many years later being fired by its then owner. Beautiful old gun, but is technically incorrect (1898 action) and I believe movie dates tale as 1893. Large bore underlever hammer gun used on elephant at beginning is I believe a 12 or 10 bore black powder gun. Stewart Granger used a Westley Richards double (.577 I believe) to take his own elephant during filming.

• Reference for the Rigby 400/350 used in King Soloman's Mines (1950) is Guns & Ammo 1984, pg. 126, "The First Magnum Mausers," by Jack Lott. Pictured is the movie gun (although mis-captioned as a Whitworth) being fired by its owner, one John A. Feyk, who purchased it at an M.G.M studio auction where it was sold as the movie gun used by Stewart Granger. In the article Lott lists some loads used by Feyk and chronographed in its 26-inch barrel. I don't know what was paid, but it was surely a bargain!

Photos from some of the various film versions over the years.

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Re: Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ? [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #243100 - 27/02/14 02:47 PM

IMO the gun in lowest foto above looks like cape gun.

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Re: Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ? [Re: Igorrock]
      #243110 - 27/02/14 09:26 PM

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IMO the gun in lowest foto above looks like cape gun.



Plus the guy does not look like Stewart Granger!

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Re: Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ? [Re: fuhrmann]
      #243126 - 28/02/14 07:47 AM

He used a borerifle...The real McCoy

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Re: Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ? [Re: rigbymauser]
      #243127 - 28/02/14 08:29 AM

Take a look towards the bottom of the page....

http://www.theexplora.com/category/guns_and_rifles/used-guns/page/2/

Edited by Oldbrit (28/02/14 08:33 AM)

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Re: Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ? [Re: fuhrmann]
      #243129 - 28/02/14 09:56 AM

Quote:

Quote:

IMO the gun in lowest foto above looks like cape gun.



Plus the guy does not look like Stewart Granger!



I wrote.:

Photos from some of the various film versions over the years.

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Re: Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ? [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #243148 - 28/02/14 10:47 PM



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Stewart Granger had 2 Westley Richards 577′s. The rifle shown above was made originally in 1923 for Count Alfred Potocki whose uncle Joseph, was author of the very rare and desirable book ‘Sport in Somaliland’. The rifle in the picture with Granger is a 577 ‘White Hunter’ model which he bought from us on his completion of filming King Solomon’s Mines. The gold inlaid animal heads which were inlaid at Granger’s request represent the game he shot during his trips to Africa, the c represented ‘charged’!



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Re: Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ? [Re: NitroX]
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Re: Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ? [Re: NitroX]
      #243152 - 28/02/14 11:05 PM

From the photo it looks as though Stewart has broken his rifle's stock at the wrist and had it repaired locally with sheet brass reinforcements.

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Re: Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ? [Re: xausa]
      #243173 - 01/03/14 11:54 AM

Selous Plates!





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Re: Stuart Granger's Gun In King Solomen"s Mine ? [Re: rigbymauser]
      #243188 - 02/03/14 09:10 AM

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He used a borerifle...The real McCoy





The rifle used was a H&H 8 Bore 8Drams (480 Grain) of Curtis & Harvey Black Powder or so it said in the 1987 Rifle Magazine, had a picture on the cover of the rifle, with MGM on the side .

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