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Mannlicher reviseted
#241446 - 29/01/14 10:55 PM

some time ago I got a old and very shabby Mannlicher having what I thought than potential.
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=192237&an=0&page=5#Post192237

the rifle was laying on ice for a long time but I start now again

steal polished (80%), stock cleaned, sand and oiled

small parts were fire blued and good old mister dyson from the uk send my his blueing salt so it will look original again. thanks to Kuduae who point me on this.

action work dry with dutch surplus very well

this is an old pic showing the swivel screw "hammered" into the stock once

I close the hole and welded the srew's head on a disk, will be soft soldered on the barrel

for the scope I found a Kaps/Wetzlar 2,5x Ziellux
the rings will be extended what will go very nice because of the threads on the underside. I am looking fore pics showing old mannlicher with scope to get a feeling in which distance they build the scope over the rifle than.

I am looking for a lot of, maybe, 100 old .303 British brass cases with Berdan primer. must be british made brass or from any other country if it have the 6,34mm Berdan primer. I have a lot of RWS 6,34mm berdan primer and be a dandy enough to us them if geting brass.

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: lancaster]
#241449 - 29/01/14 11:22 PM

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I am looking fore pics showing old mannlicher with scope to get a feeling in which distance they build the scope over the rifle than.

Maybe the scope is high enough when safety works i.e. the lever has enough space to turn. In our days it could be feel quite high but it seems to be normal when looking old Mausers and Mannlicher Schönauers.

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: Igorrock]
#241450 - 30/01/14 12:18 AM

ah, the man who is responsible for this

because of you bought two of this damned mannlicher's, do you feel better now?

the scope is on the side so the safety will be not a problem

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: lancaster]
#241477 - 30/01/14 10:35 AM

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the scope is on the side so the safety will be not a problem

Are you sure of that ? I have seen side attached mounts in british Mauser and those rings goes over the action, very similar way as in these fotos below.
With Mannlicher action you just can´t attach the rear mount same way as Mauser so only reasonable way is just screw it to action sidewall. RECKNAGEL sell upper billet rear mounts for MS so just buy pair of them for this project.

By the way; the only reason why I didn´t buy this rifle was just money, or actually, the lack of it.

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: Igorrock]
#241486 - 30/01/14 02:05 PM

Lancaster you were right about the potential. Looking good. Very interested to see the final scope setup.

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: Igorrock]
#241495 - 30/01/14 10:35 PM

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the scope is on the side so the safety will be not a problem

Are you sure of that ? I have seen side attached mounts in british Mauser and those rings goes over the action, very similar way as in these fotos below.

its not possible to get the en-bloc clip into the action when the scope is in the way

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: lancaster]
#241511 - 31/01/14 05:06 AM

The early "steyr" or mannlicher side mounts are quite interesting and where made in some different types.
Here are pics from an Jackenkroll 4x42 scope with early mount, poorly the front mount is missing:

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Edited by chapmen (31/01/14 05:07 AM)

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: chapmen]
#241512 - 31/01/14 05:14 AM

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its not possible to get the en-bloc clip into the action when the scope is in the way

Ok, I think yours rifle had steady clip as some Steyr rifles which I have seen. With those mounts it would be better if yours left eye is dominant...

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: chapmen]
#241534 - 31/01/14 06:20 PM

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thats an extreme example of an elegant scope feet and I wonder if this was hard enough

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: lancaster]
#241571 - 02/02/14 12:05 AM

If the work is proper done they are strong enough.

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: chapmen]
#241728 - 05/02/14 12:15 AM

ring soldered, 90% polished

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: lancaster]
#259891 - 03/02/15 08:03 AM

Excellent, excellent! How'd this project progressing?

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: Ash]
#274951 - 12/12/15 06:02 AM

sometimes ago I was making feets that can be screw into the rings on the lathe and give the rear feet to my tool maker for milling it. a 4mm steel plate was than welded in and the scope send to Kothe Optik in Wetzlar, its now disassempled. everything is right for the scope now to fit it into the old mount.

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: lancaster]
#274965 - 12/12/15 09:50 AM

Nice to see that you at last have got working scope mounts to yours british Steyr.

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: Igorrock]
#275059 - 14/12/15 09:48 AM

What an awesome project. I'm looking forward to more pics.

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: mart]
#370114 - 10/10/22 05:14 AM

here we go again

I see a scope mount https://snipercollection.com/

that reminds me on this mount

called purdey mount

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: lancaster]
#370119 - 10/10/22 06:45 AM

What's the Purdy scope going on this time Lancaster?

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: 93x64mm]
#384984 - 27/05/24 05:43 AM

what happen all the time? meanwhile I found an old gunmaker who is willing to drill out the barrel and soft solder a new 6,5mm liner into. down side is I have to wait because he is having to much work and his retirement is near, should call him back in autumn.
when you can't solve a big problem fix the little ones, the scope came back today. I was triming the mount with a file and the parts were assembled after cleaning the scope by an expert.

so I got the load back last week and it looks like this could be working one day.

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: lancaster]
#384986 - 27/05/24 06:19 AM

Thanks for the update Lancaster. I hope that you can keep making progress. I love my George Gibbs 1893 Steyr. It's so light and nimble. Perfect for carrying in the woods. I bagged a 7 point whitetail with mine last year.

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: fjrdoc]
#384991 - 27/05/24 04:48 PM

It's coming along nicely - those feet would have taken a LOT of fine work to get just right!
Well done mate.
Looking forward to the range report on this old girl, I reckon she'd do alright on anything that was in her way!

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: 93x64mm]
#384993 - 28/05/24 03:56 AM

some projects just need time so you don't loose your patience
its like a test!

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: lancaster]
#384994 - 28/05/24 05:49 AM

Looks good.

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Re: Mannlicher reviseted [Re: lancaster]
#385005 - 28/05/24 08:15 PM

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some projects just need time so you don't loose your patience
its like a test!

Amen!

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