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JabaliHunter
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IUCN African Elephant Summit, Gabarone
      #238645 - 04/12/13 02:12 AM

CIC Newsletter today:
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Yesterday, December 2nd 2014, the long-awaited IUCN – African Elephant Summit kicked off in Gaborone, Botswana. It became apparent right from the start that sustainable use and the merits of sustainable hunting were somewhat “side-lined”, but, according to informed sources, are slowly finding their way into the negotiated text of the summit outcome document.

It is interesting to note that, in relation to the trophy hunting ban becoming effective in January 2014 in Botswana, the country’s Minister of Environment, Wildlife and Tourism Mr. T. S. Khama, according to the financial part of the national newspaper MMEGI Monitor, just yesterday declared: “…If we see it necessary to re-introduce trophy hunting then the ban will be lifted.”

The CIC was asked earlier to submit comments on the so called draft “urgent measures” which need to be taken for Elephant conservation and would, after the debates, constitute the results of the Elephant Summit. For the time being, the draft urgent measures are available here .

It is explicitly mentioned in draft urgent measures 9 and 12 that “the economic contribution of elephants directly (through tourism and permitted sustainable consumptive use) and indirectly (through beneficial ecological processes and cultural values) to the local and national economies in the broadest sense must be transmitted.”

The CIC wishes to re-emphasize the importance of sustainable elephant hunting and related hunting tourism in Africa as a precondition for the long term conservation of wildlife and their habitats. Sustainable hunting is part of the second pillar of the Convention on Biological Diversity and provides income to local communities as an incentive for wildlife conservation.

It is the communities living with elephants that need to be engaged as active partners in their conservation. Further efforts are needed to support the rights and capacity of local communities to manage and benefit from wildlife.

You will find the CIC comments on urgent measures here http://www.cic-wildlife.org/wp..._urgent_measures.pdf




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Trophy hunting may return to Botswana [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #238649 - 04/12/13 04:12 AM

Trophy hunting may return-minister

Last Updated Monday 02 December 2013, 23:26 pm.

KASANE: Botswana does not rule out the possibility of re-introducing trophy hunting in the near future, says Tshekedi Khama, Minister of Environment, Wildlife and Tourism. He was addressing international journalists last week at the inaugural Botswana Tourism Organisation (BTO) Expo.


: Tshekedi Khama, Minister of Environment, Wildlife and Tourism

Botswana's decision to ban trophy hunting effective from January next year has been met with huge criticism from players in the tourism industry both locally and abroad.

Tourism observers believe that the move could reduce the number of tourists visiting Botswana thus impacting badly on the country's earnings.

It is believed that apart from game viewing, trophy hunting was the major reason many tourists tour Botswana. At the press conference international travel journalists, mostly from Europe, also questioned Botswana's decision to ban hunting and sought answers as to whether the initiative would be introduced again at some point by government.

"It will depend on some information we will get while the ban is still ongoing. If we see it necessary to re-introduce trophy hunting then the ban will be lifted," a non-committal Khama said.

In the absence of hunting, tourists will from next year mostly come to Botswana for game viewing as well as visiting picturesque sites.

Tshekedi also said that apart from the popular notion that trophy hunting was meant to curb total extinction of certain animals (as a result of hunting) it was also intended to address poaching of game in the country that is spiralling out of control.

"At times security forces find it confusing to detect the difference between gunshots made by poachers and those made by trophy hunters when they shoot wild animals. When there are no hunters we will not have that confusion and it will help us deal effectively with poachers," he said.

Poaching wild animals and selling them, as well as killing them and selling their trophy, has now become a great business that costs the tourism industry millions of cash annually worldwide.

Tshekedi also told the one-hour media briefing that the Westgate Mall terrorist attack that claimed a sizeable number of lives in Kenya recently did not affect Botswana's tourism industry.

"Events that happened in Kenya did not have any negative impact on the local industry because tourists are aware that we are a peaceful unique country with a good record (of peace)," the minister said. Journalists from Europe had wanted to know if Botswana suffered any decrease of tourist volumes from European nations who may not have been eager to travel, to, around or between African countries, at the time of the Westgate attack. Europeans make up most of the tourists that visit Botswana.

http://www.mmegi.bw/index.php?aid=4495

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Re: Trophy hunting may return to Botswana [Re: NitroX]
      #238650 - 04/12/13 04:16 AM

""At times security forces find it confusing to detect the difference between gunshots made by poachers and those made by trophy hunters when they shoot wild animals. When there are no hunters we will not have that confusion and it will help us deal effectively with poachers," he said."

Bull shit, I immediately thought, no keeping hunters out of the bush means there are no witnesses to elephant poaching.

Here is what was said in a comment to the article by a non-hunter. He obviously does not like hunting but has a reasonably balanced outlook and makes some excellent points, many of which hunters have also been saying:

Clay Wilson · Top Commenter · Works at Director International Wildlife Rescue

Unbelievable turn of events by Minister of Wildlife TK Khama brother to the president of Botswana.

I personally know this man and I would trust a snake oil salesman before I would him and he had no knowledge of whatsoever of how to manage the countries wildlife.

I have screamed it 1000 times trying to make people aware that Botswana had HALF of the entire population of wild elephants in the world. They are in this mans and his brothers hands.

In November it was perceived as great news that Botswana was going to ban trophy hunting. everyone was n the bandwagon congratulating Botswana for its excellent commitment to saving its wildlife and its outstanding knowledge and management in this field. A fact is that I worked with DWNP for 5 years and their management is extremely poor and unorganized, the wardens have no passion for the job and that's what it is for most of them, just a salary. They don't even have money to buy a spotlight to carry on their vehicles that are mostly run down in any case.

I can summarize this point in that in the 30 years I have been visiting Chobe not once have I ever seen a park warden patrolling in the park. Once they collect your money at the gate there is never a presence. Case closed.

Back to hunting by which by the way I am totally neutral on as there are so many cons and pros. When the ban was discussed I read between the lines and had inside information as to what was really happening. They were to stop hunting to remove the "eyes" from the remote areas so the Government can go in there in January and kill 70 to 80 thousand elephants for their own profit. Of course after that has happened then I predicted that they would start hunting back again.. No one seemed to care or understand what I have been trying to expose.

Of course there has been countless discussions and arguments about this decision which I will not delve into as its well documented. Of course the Botswana government has no problem with unnecessarily slaughtering its cattle as an excuse to fight foot and Mouth did disease that has been around for millennia ( something fishy there), they have no problem alienating their own people the Bushmen of the Kalahari as their land had diamonds and now they are using an extreme method of harvesting natural gas called Fracking, no one complains that the president builds his own airstrip and palatial country house getting land appropriated illegally and that they can deport or just simply murder someone if they have a different opinion . The list can go on. Botswana is rapidly turning into a police state. It sickens me that the world will just stand by and let it happen as it did in Rwanda, Sierra Leone, the Congo etc,etc, ect.

So back to this article on TK . It appears that they have stepped on their own tail again and he let the cat out of the bag to soon.

My main concern is the elephant population which I still believe is going to be slaughtered in January if it has not already done so. How can I stop it???????

Tk is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Differentiating gunshots from hunters and poaching?? Come on TK. They will just resort to poisoned arrows, poisoning the water holes and poisoning the carcasses so that all vultures will die so they cannot spot a carcass, never mind all the other animals that will eat of the poached meat that is left to rot and is such a waste.

I'm so disgusted I had to vent.

It's all too obvious why am I the only one exposing this?? As usual it will be conversation and not conservation and the elephants will be shot and trophy hunting will be back.
TK and HE you may do well, to kick start your brains.


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Re: Trophy hunting may return to Botswana [Re: NitroX]
      #238658 - 04/12/13 06:08 AM

I am thinking of banning hunting in Sweden.......

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Re: elephant summit recognizes sustainable use at last [Re: Sville]
      #238805 - 06/12/13 08:18 AM

http://www.cic-wildlife.org/2013/12/elep...-december-2013/
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The 3-day Elephant Summit organized by the Government of Botswana and the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) drew to a much celebrated end, yesterday in Botswana’s capital, Gaborone. Delegates from governments of Elephant range states, inter-governmental and non-governmental organizations, bilateral and multi-lateral donors agreed on a set of ‘urgent measures’ to take, tackling increasing wildlife crime endangering elephant populations throughout the elephant range states in Africa. The preamble of the outcome document recognizes “…that sustainable use of natural resources has generated economic benefits that have contributed directly to the conservation of the species, rural development and poverty reduction in a number of countries.”

More than 20 million Euros of additional funding was announced inter alia by the European Commission, by a private philanthropist, The Netherlands and Germany. The private philanthropist pledged 7 million USD for a new, much needed elephant census through an aerial photo survey. This would be conducted over all range countries wishing to participate. It is felt that this survey would require independent scientific supervision to ensure the required credibility.

The CIC submitted extensive comments on the first draft of ‘urgent measures’ earlier, but was not invited to participate in the discussions and negotiations of the Summit during the first two days, which were reserved for government delegates and representatives of inter-governmental organizations. Whereas it was important that Ministers and heads of government delegations could set time aside to discuss among themselves informally, even without the inter-governmental organizations and the press being present, it was strange and all together unnecessary for an IUCN organized meeting to “ban” non-governmental organizations, even some IUCN members, from the Summit deliberations in the first two days. Right after the introduction of the agreed urgent measures, on the third day, the Director General of the CIC, Tamás Marghescu took the floor. He thanked both the Government of Botswana and IUCN for the invitation to the Summit and congratulated the Honourable Ministers and representatives of inter-governmental organizations for discussing and agreeing on the ‘urgent measures’. After which, he observed that sustainable hunting as a tool for conservation and hunters as important partners for the implementation of ‘urgent measures’ did not appear at all in the text. He, nevertheless, offered the assistance and partnership of the CIC, representing more than 30 million hunters world-wide to assist in the implementation of the measures.

When asked by the press about his opinion on the hunting ban coming into effect on January 1st, in Botswana, Tamás Marghescu said: “We believe that the decision of Botswana to ban trophy hunting was maybe premature, costing the livelihoods of many people in the rural areas of Botswana. Sustainable trophy hunting and photographic wildlife tourism do not exclude each other. A division in time and space is possible and the two forms of wildlife utilization can complement each other, benefitting especially the rural economy of Botswana.”

When closing the Summit, the Chair of the IUCN Elephant Specialist Group, Holly Dublin, also invited the Collaborative Partnership on Sustainable Wildlife Management (CPW), to assist in the implementation of the ‘urgent measures’ and individual partners could consider to sign the outcome document of the Summit. CPW is a voluntary partnership of 12 international organizations with different mandates on wildlife management, chaired by the Convention of Biological Diversity (CBD), co-chaired by the CIC and a secretariat with the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO)




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