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Nordmann
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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: kuduae]
      #233934 - 10/08/13 10:00 AM

"To you (and Curl) it might be fabulous, best and everything else but that doesn't mean I like it."

I love it, and I am sure there is someone out there (other than Curl) who also has fabulous taste and or unlimited funds who loves it as well. Im thinking Russian Oligarch or Middle Eastern Oil Sheik. Would look nice in the office on a $500M yacht. Best thing is almost anyone can own it off license and if the ships motor burns out they could always use it as a paddle!

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: Nordmann]
      #233939 - 10/08/13 11:32 AM


"Russian Oligarch or Middle Eastern Oil Sheik."

Ah yes, they do have some uses.



Not liking it myself doesn't mean I wouldn't do what you are doing.

Personal guns are one thing, guns for sale are another.

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: Nordmann]
      #233943 - 10/08/13 01:30 PM

Quote:

"...Best thing is almost anyone can own it off license and if the ships motor burns out they could always use it as a paddle!..."



or ...... they could make it into a lamp.


Unlike Nordmann with his fancy M87, ... "I" will be "shooting" my little noname FAUL Belgium 303 Savage Double Rifle. I'll let you all know how it shoots.

A very knowledgeable gunman once said; "If you don't shoot it, it ain't worth owning." (H.S.)

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: buckstix]
      #233950 - 10/08/13 06:50 PM

waiting in anticipation to hear the results Buckstix. All good fun.

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: Nordmann]
      #234346 - 16/08/13 10:37 PM

Hello All,

I've had a bit of a delay in shooting. I had some surgery done and the doctor says I need to wait 6 weeks before I can shoot. That was 3 weeks ago, so I think I'll give it a go this weekend.

Mean time, I've cased the little beauty in a "toe-under" case that shows the right side of the stock with the delicate carving.



Edited by CptCurl (28/09/13 11:28 PM)

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: buckstix]
      #234350 - 17/08/13 12:42 AM

Very nice!

I hope your surgery went well and that you have a full and speedy recovery.

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: CptCurl]
      #234351 - 17/08/13 01:05 AM

doctor says I need to wait 6 weeks before I can shoot. That was 3 weeks ago, so I think I'll give it a go this weekend.

That makes perfect sense!

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: Nordmann]
      #234353 - 17/08/13 03:26 AM


buckstix

Looks good.

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: 500Nitro]
      #234428 - 18/08/13 10:43 PM

Hello,

Apparently the 303 Savage cartridge had a reputation as a "one-shot" killer of Caribou, as shown in this early 1900's advertisement
for the model 1899 rifle.





This might explain the stock carving.





Surprisingly, another period ad deemed the diminutive cartridge was also suitable for Grizzly.



Edited by CptCurl (28/09/13 11:29 PM)

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: buckstix]
      #234431 - 19/08/13 12:54 AM

Nice find and a fun little rifle for sure. I'm looking forward to seeing how it shoots.

It's clear that you move quickly on seemingly all things gun related, and I'm guessing other issues as well, but it sounds like your doctor wants you to behave yourself when it comes to shooting after your surgery. Granted, if the doctor of which you mention is a podiatrist and your surgery was the removal of a bunion I wouldn't see some time on the bench as a big deal. The little Belgian beauty can wait a little longer; a few more weeks is nothing in comparison to the years it has waited already. Just say'n.

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: Buchsemann]
      #234434 - 19/08/13 02:55 AM

In "Firearms of the American West 1865 - 1896" there is a picture of 2 hunters with one of more grizzlies - the hunters have earliest version of the 1899 Savage - the 94 or perhaps 1895 - in .303 Savage.
Regardless of the actual rifle model, the picture is in the book.

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: DarylS]
      #234439 - 19/08/13 06:16 AM

I´m not familiar with .303 Savage and it´s killing power but in 1950´s and -60´s some local famous bearhunters here in Finland used to shoot their bears with 6,5x52R aka .25-35 Win. It was very popular caliber in those times and VALMET made their first combo in this caliber with 16/70. IMO the placement of the shot is more inportant than the power...

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: Igorrock]
      #234440 - 19/08/13 06:25 AM


Agree re "the placement of the shot is more inportant than the power..."

A small calibre, and in those days 303 of any sort was looked on as more than capable would have been used for anything just
like in Aus when 303 was used extensively for Buffalo.

Of course I very much doubt that the people in the early days
tried to do what the people in this video tried to do.

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: 500Nitro]
      #234442 - 19/08/13 07:48 AM

Well,

Although the Doctor said I should wait 6 - 8 weeks before shooting, I know he must have been talking about bigger calibers, not a 303 Savage. So, I figure 3 weeks and 5 days is long enough to wait, and I headed to the range. When I was finished shooting, my face was sore from the ear-muffs, not from the recoil. (I'm going to try the 8x57R next.)

I'm sure this 303 Double was originally regulated with 190g silver-tip factory ammo. All I had for testing was 2 boxes of generic "white box" custom loads with 170g Flat Point bullets. Once I make all this ammo into "empty brass", I'll reload with proper 190g bullets at the factory velocity of 1980 fps, the velocity of the day.

Here below are the first 6 shots fired in this rifle since it was made in 1949. Although I'm sure the rifle is capable of better groups, with the proper bullet weight, all 6 shots would have hit the heart of a Grizzly or Moose at 50 yards. Note that the barrels have crossed, likely due to the lighter bullets.



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Edited by CptCurl (28/09/13 11:29 PM)

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: buckstix]
      #234444 - 19/08/13 08:11 AM


Well done.

It looks like you pulled L3 so if you take that out of the group, I think you have an even better group.

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: 500Nitro]
      #234446 - 19/08/13 08:26 AM

Hello 500Nitro,

With my aging eyes, I'm happy if I can just keep all the shots on the paper. Lucky for me I'm aiming at Deer, not Squirrels.

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Re: Not sure about what to think about this one [Re: buckstix]
      #240565 - 13/01/14 10:39 PM

"deer, not squirrels".

Sounds like you need a .22 Hornet double!

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