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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: CJF]
      #390810 - 31/03/25 03:30 PM

for better comparison I mirror the pic of the first double






double number 1 had a simple rear sight, number 2 a little express sight

barrel look like invisible rifling



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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: CJF]
      #390827 - 01/04/25 01:57 AM

Chris,

You are absolutey correct. That rifle may bring $5k at auction with the price including the auction fees.

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: 85lc]
      #391198 - 18/04/25 04:19 AM

Hammer-s/s double rifle G. L. Rasch - Braunschweig caliber probably 450?
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...p;currentpos=83














Hammer-s/s double rifle Immanuel Meffert - Suhl Hubertus cal. 13mm?

https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...p;currentpos=84















Hammer-s/s double rifle Robert Bessel - Sagan Herzöglicher Hof Büchsenmacher cal. 28
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...p;currentpos=85














Sidelock-s/s double rifle Holland & Holland - London Dominion cal. 375 H&H Flanged Mag
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...p;currentpos=96

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43rd Classic Auction - Live Auction
AT-1220 Wien, Kagraner Platz 9
Auction on Thursday, May 15, 2025 from 17:00

Lot: 627
Sidelock-s/s double rifle Holland & Holland - London Dominion cal. 375 H&H Flanged Mag. #19329 § C + ACC
Starting price 9.000 EUR

Barrel length 66 cm (26"), stock length 39 cm (15.5"), total length 111 cm (43.5"), weight 5.28 kg, year of manufacture 1906, British proof, restored condition 1. Barrel bore condition very good. Barrels engraved with "Holland & Holland 98 New Bond Street London Winner of all the Field Trials London", ramp front sight, matted quarter rib with fixed sights including folding rear sight blades and its own H&H claw mount, matching numbers to the rifle, with Zeiss Victory Varipoint 1.1-4x24 T* telescopic sight (luminous function not checked), ejectors, firing pins inserted from the front, receiver and all system parts intensively color-hardened, ham-shaped side locks typical of Dominion, cocking indicator, extensively engraved with arabesques, slide tang safety with gold inlaid "SAFE", double trigger, trigger guard dark blued, extremely fine and intensely grained stock, oval cheekpiece, grip cap, strap eyelets, empty monogram plate, leather-covered butt plate. In the particularly solid flanged version which is the ideal choice for double rifles in .375 caliber and ejects more reliably than the usual H&H belted version. Delivered in a custom-fit leather-covered wooden box with manufacturer's label, tools, cleaning supplies and other accessories.

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: lancaster]
      #391205 - 18/04/25 07:06 PM

Some very Teutonic styled double rifles.

Sidelock-s/s double rifle Holland & Holland - London Dominion cal. 375 H&H Flanged Mag
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/en/...p;currentpos=96

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43rd Classic Auction - Live Auction
AT-1220 Wien, Kagraner Platz 9
Auction on Thursday, May 15, 2025 from 17:00

Lot: 627
Sidelock-s/s double rifle Holland & Holland - London Dominion cal. 375 H&H Flanged Mag. #19329 § C + ACC
Starting price 9.000 EUR

Barrel length 66 cm (26"), stock length 39 cm (15.5"), total length 111 cm (43.5"), weight 5.28 kg, year of manufacture 1906, British proof, restored condition 1. Barrel bore condition very good. Barrels engraved with "Holland & Holland 98 New Bond Street London Winner of all the Field Trials London", ramp front sight, matted quarter rib with fixed sights including folding rear sight blades and its own H&H claw mount, matching numbers to the rifle, with Zeiss Victory Varipoint 1.1-4x24 T* telescopic sight (luminous function not checked), ejectors, firing pins inserted from the front, receiver and all system parts intensively color-hardened, ham-shaped side locks typical of Dominion, cocking indicator, extensively engraved with arabesques, slide tang safety with gold inlaid "SAFE", double trigger, trigger guard dark blued, extremely fine and intensely grained stock, oval cheekpiece, grip cap, strap eyelets, empty monogram plate, leather-covered butt plate. In the particularly solid flanged version which is the ideal choice for double rifles in .375 caliber and ejects more reliably than the usual H&H belted version. Delivered in a custom-fit leather-covered wooden box with manufacturer's label, tools, cleaning supplies and other accessories.

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Opening bid is €9,000. I wonder what it ends up as. As many here know, I lust over a scoped .375 Flanged Mag as my "world hunting double rifle". A lighter weight handy double rifle able to be used if needed for dangerous game, or a plains rifle. Even longer ranges even if used as a single barrel shot.



What a monstrosity! Awful scope set up. Too far back. Too large. Like a wart on a beautiful woman's face.







Gross mount bases. More warts on her face.



As suspected the mount bases are at least grooved to allow open express sights use.

But ugly from above as well. Sloppy ugly screw heads from the hardware store to boot. Not even lined up







The guncase is nice.

It will be interesting to see how the price goes. A real H&H in .375 Fl Mag would be quite special.

I wonder if those awful mount bases could be replaced discretely?

A problem with these Germanic scopes, is they are becoming sonrediculously large. Over the top for a double rifle. As much as I'd prefer a Germanic quality scope I'd probably gonforbsn illuminated Leupold of more petite dimensions,maybe a 1-4x.

Also if this original setup regulates and with what bullet, load?

Look at the beautiful lines of that rifle. And the huge witches wart protruding from it's chin twice the size of the witches head ...




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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: NitroX]
      #391213 - 18/04/25 10:33 PM

nothing on the H&H that cannot be fixed

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: lancaster]
      #391237 - 20/04/25 08:30 AM

...with an angle grinder!

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: Marrakai]
      #391241 - 20/04/25 01:22 PM

Not only is the scope setup like a huge wart, it is set far back enough to poke you in the eye.

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: 85lc]
      #391242 - 20/04/25 04:38 PM



I read these mounts were H & H mount bases. Didn't realise H & H had such garous mount bases.

Dorleac has a .300 Mag H&H double with the same. I'll post links.

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: NitroX]
      #391288 - 24/04/25 01:08 AM

If it's a "flanged magnum" then it must have been rechambered from .375 2 1/2 if it was made in 1906. Agree about the unsightly scope mounts, otherwise a lovely rifle.

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: degoins]
      #391298 - 24/04/25 09:46 PM

Non original stock (never seen such a pancake cheekpiece on a H&H double rifle), renewed color case hardening, later model H&H scope mount...with non indexed screws.
Don't ever speak about the scope and as says degoins I suspect this poor rifle has ben re-chambered from .375-2½"

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: DORLEAC]
      #391504 - 09/05/25 02:54 PM

Nice dr in one way but looks to be restocked by Blaser.

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: rigbymauser]
      #391523 - 10/05/25 11:09 AM

Euro cheek piece, looks like.

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: DarylS]
      #391549 - 12/05/25 02:05 AM

Starting at 9,000 Euro = $10,124 USD, then shipping and import duties……plus recent US Federal (and now Colorado) taxes, be interesting to know what it sells for.

I wonder what info H&H has in their records.
5.28kg =11.64 lb so in my opinion a proper weight, in the day, for the .375 Flanged Mag however the original proof marks are softened/obscured. Surely a reproof if nothing else.

I could accept the restock cheekpiece, however that scope is truly an abomination.

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: 3DogMike]
      #391859 - 06/06/25 04:49 AM

J.Purdey & Sons, ex 400 Express 3" now 45-70, SN 23266

https://auctionet.com/de/3988083-double-...f-nr-23266-e-no

















































Husqvarna, Model 410/E 9,3x74R, SN 178265
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Sauer & Sohn 450/82 Express , SN 107596
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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: lancaster]
      #391863 - 06/06/25 08:25 AM

Saddened by the Purdey .400 conversion to .45-70.
One would hope it was done because the bores were stuffed.

...but probably not.

No offence intended to the modern renaissance of Brit gun-making (which I sincerely applaud)
but they just don't make them like that anymore.

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: Marrakai]
      #391868 - 06/06/25 03:33 PM

thinking the same, Purdeys have allways a very special elegance

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: lancaster]
      #391870 - 06/06/25 03:38 PM

Interesting it has two detachable sidelock screw levers. One each side.

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: Marrakai]
      #391871 - 06/06/25 03:40 PM

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Saddened by the Purdey .400 conversion to .45-70.
One would hope it was done because the bores were stuffed.

...but probably not.

No offence intended to the modern renaissance of Brit gun-making (which I sincerely applaud)
but they just don't make them like that anymore.




What a shame. A Purdey rechambered for .45/70.

I'm.guessing the original was .400 Purdey. What was its ballistics?

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: NitroX]
      #391875 - 06/06/25 07:34 PM

Oh well. Depending in the "working pressure" capable of 2,000fps with 400gr. or 2,100fps with 350's.
Brian Pierce got complete penetration on both shoulders on a cape buffalo with a factory 400gr. Solid at 1,900fps, so it would work if capable of lever action loads.
My '86 just loves Bullet Barn V/hard cast 450gr. FN's at 1,850fps. I didn't bother going faster besides, we're fresh out of cape buff about these parts.

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: Marrakai]
      #391877 - 06/06/25 08:45 PM

Quote:

Saddened by the Purdey .400 conversion to .45-70.
One would hope it was done because the bores were stuffed.

...but probably not.

No offence intended to the modern renaissance of Brit gun-making (which I sincerely applaud)
but they just don't make them like that anymore.




Couldn't agree more!
Beautiful put together rifle!
Me I'd get another set of barrels.......but what would you then choose?
450-400NE or perhaps a 450NE?


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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: 93x64mm]
      #391880 - 07/06/25 12:38 AM

after the damage done and its a .458 barrel now 450 3" would be the best way but imho only nitro for black!

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Re: Doubles At Auction [Re: lancaster]
      #391885 - 07/06/25 03:04 AM

Guys,

I agree. It is ashame that someone would damage a beautiful double rifle by reboringh it to 45/70. Is someone wanted a 45/70 for hunting, the Marlin lever action would be better than damaging a great Purdey.

Now, that being said, there really isn't anything wrong with the 45/70 as a cartridge loaded to the strength of the action.

If someone owned this rifle and was hellbent on having it in a Brit cartridge, a 450 3" would be an easy rechambering. However, the water table would then show three cartridges wiich would look fairly stupid on a very nice double rifle.

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