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400NitroExpress
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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: Redleg6]
      #46601 - 14/01/06 12:19 PM

Very interesting, Bob. Sounds like this gun is as good as it looks.

Jeffery assigned it's serial numbers in blocks. No. 24382 is from a block that covered guns that were sold 1913-1923 (24241-24480). My reference works say that Jeffery closed both the King Street and Queen Victoria Street outlets and moved to 26 Bury Street in 1914. So, it would seem that 1913-1914 has to be the approximate date.

The Leonard number of 1887, stamped on the lower rib just in front of the fore-end loop, I would have guessed at 1911-1912. Looks like my A. Hollis & Son .400 is a touch later than I thought. Damn. It's 35 units later than yours.

I have no idea what the "*385" behind the grip cap means, but I hope someone here does. My .400 doesn't have this, but I have a William Evans DR that has an asterisk stamped close up behind the grip cap, as you described, but no number. I've always wondered about that.

Thank you for sharing this information with us, Bob. It has been useful to me, and interesting besides. Really looking forward to more pictures. Post a close-up of the Leonard number if you can.
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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: Redleg6]
      #47788 - 24/01/06 08:05 PM

Hi bob,
Nice to see what appears to be another Leonard Gun coming to light.
Hope you are pleased with it
Regards
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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: Leonard]
      #47796 - 24/01/06 09:05 PM

WTG Bob!

Congrats!

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: Rusty]
      #48677 - 31/01/06 10:48 AM

OK, my new (old) Hollis 450-400 ser #15*** has a 2 digit '85' on the underside of the barrels. Bob

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: bobc]
      #48687 - 31/01/06 11:55 AM

My Jeffery is 895 and my A.Hollis is 836.

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: bluedevil]
      #52591 - 16/03/06 07:41 PM

Hello Keith,

I see that you wrote an article on Jeffery double rifles some time ago. I would be interested to read it as I am collecting as much info as I can on Jeffery(and Leonard)- do you still have a copy or know how or where I could get one?

Best regards
Stuart Leonard.

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: Leonard]
      #55011 - 17/04/06 06:40 AM

After reading this string many times, several in the last week, I finally have something to contribute.

With some help from 400 Nitro Express, NE 450 No 2 and JJ Perodeau, I purchased a Jeffery 400 3 inch and brought it home 2 days ago.

It has 24 inch extractor barrels, heel and toe plates and no cheekpiece. It has a dolls head with third bite. The gun is a 55 Cordite gun. It has very nice model 3 engraving and is in excellent condition.
The gun is cased and the serial number is from the 1913 - 1923 block with the Bury St address. The Leonard number is 1966.

As soon as I get a chance I'll post some pictures.

I have Dies, Brass and Bullets on the way and will post on the shooting results shortly.

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: 470evans]
      #55020 - 17/04/06 11:56 AM

470 Evans
It looks like I am going back to Enid on Wed. with my friend with the 470 Chapuis.
Are you sure you do not want me to take that Jeffery 400 and have a scope fitted?

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: 470evans]
      #55083 - 18/04/06 09:35 AM

Congratulations on your new double!

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: 470evans]
      #55107 - 18/04/06 01:51 PM

470evans,

Congratulations and yes, do find time to post pictures.

Good hunting!

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #55269 - 20/04/06 03:13 AM

If that's the one I'm thinking of- Color me GREEN!!!

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: A10ACN]
      #214588 - 14/08/12 12:42 PM

Anybody see the .500 bolt gun at Cabelas?

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Gun-Libra...ery/1413135.uts

I don't know where the Palos Verdes Estates location comes from.
I talked to the Fort Worth Gun Library and they confirmed that is what is engraved on the barrel.
Any ideas?
Looks to be a decent gun for the price ($7K)if it feeds reliably but there are a cuple things I see that make me wonder.
I will see if aybody chimes in here to see what the consensus is on the gun.
FWIW, I tink the square bridge is original to the action and not welded up.

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: Huvius]
      #214590 - 14/08/12 12:46 PM



Palos Verdes Estates


It is in California.


Description: W. Jeffery & Son, Plymouth & Palos Verdes Estates Commercial Mauser; built up and added square to bridge.


Note the "built up and added square to bridge."

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: 500Nitro]
      #214592 - 14/08/12 01:20 PM

I knew were Palos Verdes Estates was from spending a little time around San Pedro and Hermosa/Manhattan/Redondo but I was wondering if there was any connection at all to Jeffery in England?
The man at the Gun Library mentioned the little cavity at the base of the bridge just above the bolt release as evidence of a possible "built-up" square bridge, but I think it is just a little nick/dent in the metal and not a void from welding.

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: Huvius]
      #214595 - 14/08/12 01:56 PM



So why does it say on the description at the bottom
of the page "Note the "built up and added square to bridge."

???

Seems weird they say one thing but have the complete
opposite in the description on the web site.

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: 500Nitro]
      #214596 - 14/08/12 02:05 PM

From our conversation, I think they assume that any Mauser action with a thumb cut and stripper clip recess is of military origin, so the square bridge MUST be added on...

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: Huvius]
      #214597 - 14/08/12 02:17 PM



What "the little cavity at the base of the bridge just above the bolt release as evidence of a possible "built-up" square bridge,
"


Where aboutls exactly.

In front of the square bridge, to the side ?


Are you talking where the action is cut back towards the Square Bridge ?

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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: 500Nitro]
      #214601 - 14/08/12 03:05 PM

Think they are talking about this (circled in red)



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Re: W.J. Jeffery History [Re: Huvius]
      #214604 - 14/08/12 03:51 PM

IMHO it's in the right spot for a void but you really would have to have it in your hands and have a really close look at it.

Just my HO of course, would be interested in other people's thoughts.

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Edited by 500Nitro (14/08/12 03:52 PM)

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